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          CODE SECTION 35140 EXECUTOR AT THE DISTRICT EDUCATIONAL CENTER AT 1301 EAST ORANGETHORPE AVENUE AND PLACENTIA AT 434. WE WILL TAKE BLUE CARDS FOR COMMENTS BEFORE THE STUDY SESSION. IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, WE WILL GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO COMPLETE. PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS AND COMMENTS AT THIS TIME ARE LIMITED TO THE STUDY SESSION ONLY. SO LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE JUST ONE COMMENT. ANYTHING ELSE COME THROUGH OKAY AT THIS TIME I'LL CALL UP LINDA COHN. I HAVE SOME VISUAL AIDS. AS PART OF MY PRESENTATION. I, I IF YOU COULD JUST SEE THE OUTLINE I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT. ANYWAY, KEY PART OF THIS PRESENTATION IS GOING TO DEAL WITH DECLINING ENROLLMENT. AND I REALLY WANT TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE SPECIFICALLY. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE VERY IMPORTANT PIECE OF INFORMATION. IT'S GOING TO LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THIS. ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH ABOUT DECLINING ENROLLMENT. AND IT SHOWS A RATHER PRECIPITOUS DECLINE. I WANT TO SHOW YOU A BLACK AND WHITE COPY THAT I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED. IF YOU LOOK AT THE RED IN THE CENTER, YOU WILL SEE WHAT IS CALLED A VERY CLEAR ANOMALY IN THIS PARTICULAR DECLINE, SPECIFICALLY, THE RED ENCOMPASSES A YEAR PERIOD WHERE THE DECLINE, RATHER THAN BEING TWO, THREE, 400, WAS SEVEN STUDENTS. IF YOU WANT TO REALLY EXPLORE THE IDEA OF WHY ENROLLMENT IS DECLINING, PLEASE LOOK AT THIS ANOMALY. IT MAY TELL YOU SOMETHING. IT IS WITHIN A TIME FRAME THAT CAN BE EASILY EXAMINED. AND I WANT TO RAISE THIS QUESTION FOR YOU. WHAT WAS TAKING PLACE DURING THAT PARTICULAR TIME FRAME THAT NOT ONLY STOPPED THE DECLINE, BUT IF YOU GO INTERNALLY WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THAT YEAR PERIOD, IT ACTUALLY INCREASED ENROLLMENT. WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN PLACENTIA-YORBA LINDA, DURING THAT PARTICULAR TIME FRAME, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GET AT LEAST A PARTIAL ANSWER TO WHY WE HAVE A PRECIPITOUS DECLINE, THAT AT ONE POINT COMPLETELY STOPPED AND THEN CONTINUED ON AN EVEN SHARPER DOWNWARD TREND AFTERWARDS. THAT'S GOING TO ANSWER A LOT OF QUESTIONS. I CAN TELL YOU PRETTY EASILY THAT THIS IS AN ANOMALY BECAUSE STATEWIDE ENROLLMENT HAS DECLINED WITHOUT INTERRUPTION. AND I THINK YOU'LL GET SOME DATA ON THIS. I CAN ALSO TELL YOU PRETTY EASILY WHY CALIFORNIA STATE ENROLLMENT HAS DECLINED. THERE ARE A LOT OF FACTORS. THIS IS JUST SPECULATION ON MY PART. BUT IF YOU GO DEEPLY INTO SOME OF THESE AREAS, THE INFLUENCE THAT COMMON CORE HAD, PARTICULARLY IN CALIFORNIA, CALIFORNIA CLUNG TO COMMON CORE. MOST OF THE REST OF THE STATES BAILED ON IT. COMPREHENSIVE SEXUAL EDUCATION, I THINK, WAS A FACTOR IN A LOT OF PARENTS PULLING THEIR KIDS DURING COVID. PARENTS FOUND OUT ABOUT CRITICAL RACE THEORY BEING TAUGHT IN CLASSROOMS, ABOUT THE LGBT AGENDA THAT FOCUSED ON TRANS GENDER AFFIRMATION. PARENTS DID NOT LIKE THIS BEING TAUGHT TO THEIR KIDS. THE KEY PHRASE DURING THIS TIME PERIOD WAS INDOCTRINATION, NOT EDUCATION. 
          THAT ANSWERS A LOT OF QUESTIONS. BUT AGAIN, GO BACK TO PLACENTIA-YORBA LINDA AND THE SPECIFIC ENROLLMENT. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES. OKAY. MAYBE BECAUSE THE TWO MINUTES MAYBE. 
          OKAY, WE WILL BEGIN OUR STUDY SESSION NOW AND WE'LL TURN THE TIME OVER TO MISS VELASCO. OKAY. 
          WELL THANK YOU. I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE TO BEGIN THIS PRESENTATION. JEREMY. GOOD. 
          OKAY. GOT IT. OKAY, SO OUR AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR CURRENT 
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BUDGET SITUATION. I'LL BE GIVING YOU SOME INFORMATION RELATED TO DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF WHAT AFFECTS OUR BUDGET. WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THEMES THAT WERE VERY CLEAR FROM OUR BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING THAT WE HAD. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO START TO DISCUSS THE BOARD'S PRIORITIES FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR BUDGET STABILIZATION PLAN AND OUR NEXT STEPS. SO YOU'VE SEEN THIS SLIDE BEFORE. THIS WAS FROM OUR UNAUDITED ACTUALS FOR 2425. AND WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THIS WE'RE ONLY WANTING TO LOOK AT OUR UNRESTRICTED GENERAL FUND NUMBERS BECAUSE THAT IS REALLY WHERE WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK TO SEE WHAT IS IT THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. SO LOOKING HERE AT THIS FIRST GREEN COLUMN, YOU CAN SEE AND JUST LOOKING DOWN TO THE YELLOW ROW BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'RE LIMITED FOR TIME IS THAT WE FOR THE END OF LAST YEAR WE ACTUALLY ENDED UP WITH A $6.4 MILLION DEFICIT. LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE ADDRESSING FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR, IT'S A $15.6 MILLION DEFICIT PROJECTING OUT. AND JUST BASED ON JUST THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD AT THE TIME OF THE ADOPTED BUDGET, AN ADDITIONAL 13 MILLION DEFICIT IN 2627 AND ALMOST A $12 MILLION DEFICIT IN 2728. OTHER INFORMATION THAT WE WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IS WHAT'S HAPPENING CALIFORNIA STATEWIDE. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE HERE ACROSS THE STATE, WE'RE CONTINUING TO HAVE DECLINING ENROLLMENT. AND AS YOU GO THROUGH HERE, YOU CAN SEE CURRENTLY IN 2425, EVEN WITH ADDING TC ACROSS THE STATE, WE STILL ARE AT 5.8 MILLION STUDENTS. AND THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL DROP OF 500,000 STUDENTS. EVEN WITH THE INCREASED NUMBERS RELATED TO OUR NEW TC REQUIREMENTS, WHERE WE ARE NOW ACCEPTING ALL STUDENTS AT THAT TIME. AND SO STATE DECLINED, DECLINING ENROLLMENT CONTINUES. GOING AND TAKING A LOOK HERE AT STATEWIDE WHAT'S HAPPENING. SO YOU'VE ALSO SEEN THIS IN PRIOR INFORMATION. THE KIDS IF YOU LOOK DOWN HERE FOR OUR PRIMARY GRADES K THROUGH THREE FOURTH GRADE, THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE IN THOSE GRADE LEVELS STATEWIDE IS MUCH SMALLER THAN THE STUDENTS THAT ARE LEAVING US IN HIGH SCHOOL YEARS, SO WE HAVE LESS CHILDREN COMING IN THAN THAN ARE GOING OUT. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE DECLINING ENROLLMENT LOOKING AT THE COUNTY. SO COUNTYWIDE, WE'RE STILL SEEING THE SAME THING AS WHAT'S HAPPENING STATEWIDE. AND I'M SORRY. YES. THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE DOLLARS OR NO. 
          IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE NOT DOLLARS. NO IT'S ATTENDANCE. IT SHOULDN'T BE A DOLLAR SIGN. 
          THANK YOU. NO DOLLARS. IT'S $5.8 MILLION. THE ENROLLMENT. SO DOLLAR SIGN SHOULD NOT BE THERE. GOOD CATCH. JUST MAKING SURE. NO, I LOVE THAT. THANK YOU I LOVE IT. GOOD. COUNTY ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS. AND SO HERE TOO YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT COUNTIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND EVEN THE ONES THAT ARE ACTUALLY IN THE POSITIVE. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT TOP LINE THERE, THE GREEN ONE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN INCREASING IT'S NOT INCREASING BY VERY MUCH. AND SO WITH AN 8% INCREASE FOR THAT ONE, BUT LOOKING AT ALL OF THE OTHERS, YOU CAN SEE BY PERCENTAGE HOW MUCH THEY'VE BEEN DROPPING AND ARE PROJECTED TO DROP THROUGH 20, 20, 33, 34 AND THEN THE ORANGE LINE THERE, THAT'S ACTUALLY OUR COUNTY. AND SO WE'RE PROJECTED TO CONTINUE DROPPING. AND IT'LL BE ABOUT A 16% DECREASE WHEN WE GET A FEW MORE YEARS OUT HERE. SO WE ARE DEFINITELY FOLLOWING IN THE COUNTY. WHAT'S HAPPENING STATEWIDE. AND THEN LOOKING AT OUR DISTRICT. YES ANOTHER DOLLAR PURPLE LINE. YEAH. THE PURPLE LINE IS THE STATE AS A WHOLE RIGHT. SO WE'RE BELOW THE STATE AVERAGE. YES YES YES THANK YOU FOR THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. AND LET ME KNOW. ARE WE LIKE ARE PEOPLE MOVING. ARE THEY JUST GOING TO PRIVATE SCHOOL CHARTER SCHOOLS. FROM WHAT WE CAN SEE IT'S REALLY JUST A DECLINE IN BIRTH RATE. ALSO, I KNOW ALSO WITH OUR IMMIGRATION POLICIES TOO, THAT THERE'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, NOT AS MANY PEOPLE HERE BECAUSE OF THAT ALSO. NORTH CAROLINA STATE, 14,000 STUDENTS. WOW. OH, GOSH. YEAH. YEAH. NO, THAT WOULD ACCOUNT FOR AN EXTREME CHANGE. 
          HOWEVER, THIS IS A PROGRESSIVE PROBLEM, RIGHT? YES. I'M JUST SAYING, LIKE, AT LEAST WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO. RIGHT. WELL THAT'S TRUE. I'LL JUMP IN BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS NOW. AS WE LOOK AT IT, I'VE WORKED WITH FOLKS AT 
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BOTH THE NATIONAL LEVEL AS WELL AS STATE LEVEL DEMOGRAPHERS LOOKING AT THE DATA. IT'S REALLY FASCINATING BECAUSE THEY'LL TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS STARTED TO HAPPEN PRE-PANDEMIC, AND WE LOST TRACK OF IT BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC. AND THEN THE PANDEMIC, YOU KNOW, CAME TO TO A TAIL END. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN FOLKS WENT, WAIT, WHERE DID ALL THE KIDS GO? BECAUSE THERE WAS REALLY NO NOTICE OF THE DECLINE HAPPENING AND THE REALIZATION THAT WHEN YOU BRING IN, YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND LESS KIDS IN KINDERGARTEN, THAT YOU THEN YOU GRADUATE IN 12TH GRADE, THERE'S ONE DECLINE. AND THEN FROM THERE THERE HAS BEEN SOME IMPACT FROM EITHER HOMESCHOOLING BECAUSE FOLKS BEGIN TO REALIZE THAT THEY CAN DO ONLINE, OR THEY CAN DO HOMESCHOOL AND THEY CAN DO SOME DIFFERENT FLEXIBLE THINGS. AND BETWEEN THOSE TWO THINGS, IT DEFINITELY HAS IMPACTED EVERY STATE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THERE'S SOME OTHER FACTORS LIKE YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT THAT DEFINITELY HAVE AN IMPACT. BUT OVERWHELMINGLY WE WE DIDN'T SEE IT, WE DIDN'T NOTICE IT OR WE DIDN'T WANT TO SEE IT PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC. AND THEN AFTER THE PANDEMIC, EVERYBODY WENT, WHOA, NELLY, HANG ON A MINUTE. WHAT HAPPENED? AND THERE'S BEEN JUST AN UNBELIEVABLE INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF ARTICLES THAT HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED ABOUT DECLINING ENROLLMENT AND FOLKS GOING, WHAT HAPPENED? WHAT HAPPENED, WHAT HAPPENED? AND IT I MEAN, IT IT'S BEEN THE TRAIN IS COMING. PEOPLE JUST DIDN'T SEE THE TRAIN. ISN'T IT TRUE WITH THE BUDGETS IN 2017, 2018, WE WERE STARTING TO GET INTO DEFICIT SPENDING. BUT WE GOT ALL THAT ONE TIME MONEY. YEP. 
          YES. IT WAS LIKE EVERYTHING WAS IGNORED AND THE ONE TIME I STOPPED, IT'S JUST YEAH, IT EXACERBATED SOME CHALLENGE BECAUSE WE GOT ALL OF THIS RESOURCE TO HELP ADDRESS SO MANY OF THE CHALLENGES THAT HAPPENED, BUT IT PROLONGED THE INEVITABLE. AND NOW WE'RE ALL HAVING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT DO WE DO TO BALANCE IT. AND WE'VE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO GET ADA BASED ON PREVIOUS ENROLLMENT NUMBERS. AND NOW WE'RE ACTUALLY IT'S IT'S YEAH, IT'S ALL CATCHING UP. 
          SO WHEN WE ONE LAST THING. SORRY. NO GO AHEAD. DO WE HAVE A COMPARISON? I LOOKED THROUGH THIS, BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT A COMPARISON OF POPULATION LOSS IN GENERAL COMPARED TO. I'M JUST SAYING LIKE IF BIRTH RATES ARE A PROBLEM, THEN OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO CORRELATE TO US. 
          DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH IS THAT? HOW MUCH OF THAT IS A FACTOR? HAVE WE NOT GONE INTO DEPTH OF THAT YET? WELL, WE DID A DEMOGRAPHY STUDY. I CAN GO THROUGH THERE AND PULL OUT SOME GRAPHS FOR YOU IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, JUST TO KIND OF SEE LIKE IS IT HALF OF THE THE DROP IS BECAUSE OF POPULATION OR IS IT 20%. IS IT 80%. YEAH. RIGHT. LET ME LOOK INTO THE DETAILS. INTERESTING. AND I'LL FIND THAT FOR YOU OKAY. CAN I THROW SOMETHING ELSE OUT? ORANGE COUNTY BUSINESS JOURNAL JUST DID A RELEASE OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROJECTED, WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. SO IT'S A GREAT REPORT THAT YOU CAN JUST GOOGLE SEARCH. IT WAS LIKE LAST WEEK. IT JUST CAME OUT. WHAT IS IT, ORANGE COUNTY BUSINESS JOURNAL IT'S A CONDITIONS OF ORANGE COUNTY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT OKAY. SO JUST DEALS WITH POPULATION. IT'S GOT ALL KINDS OF DATA AND AND PUT IT IN THE. YEAH THERE WE GO. AND I DID READ ANOTHER ARTICLE TOO WHERE A LOT OF FAMILIES, JUST BECAUSE OF HOW EXPENSIVE EVERYTHING IS, THEY'RE CHOOSING TO ONLY HAVE ONE CHILD WHERE BEFORE AT LEAST YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD REPLACE TWO, HAVE TWO CHILDREN REPLACING YOURSELVES. SO IT'S DEFINITELY CHANGING WHAT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. SO HERE'S OUR DISTRICT ENROLLMENT NUMBERS. AND AGAIN THIS GOES BACK TO IF YOU GO BACK TO 2425, WE'VE DECLINED OUR ENROLLMENT BY OVER 3000 STUDENTS SINCE 1516. AND THEN PROJECTING OUT THROUGH 2728, WE LOOK LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER BY THAT POINT FROM GOING BACK TO 20 1516, IT'LL BE UP TO 4330. AND SO WE ARE ALSO FOLLOWING WHAT COUNTY AND STATE LOOKS LIKE TO. SO HERE'S ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. WE KNOW THAT WE'RE WITH OUR DROP IN OUR ENROLLMENT. WHAT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT IS WHAT ARE THE OTHER COSTS THAT ARE AFFECTING OUR BUDGET. SO 86% OF THE BUDGET ARE PEOPLE COSTS. WE HAVE 2.5% OF THE BUDGET BEING SPENT ON OUR BOOKS, AND SUPPLY COSTS. 8.5% OF OUR BUDGET IS FOR THINGS LIKE SERVICES AND UTILITIES TO SUPPORT THE DISTRICT. WHEN WE GO DOWN BELOW THAT, WE HAVE OUR CLASSIFIED STATUTORY BENEFITS AT 36%. SO EVERY DOLLAR WE SPEND F ADDITIONAL $0.36 ON STATUTORY COSTS. AND THE SAME THING FOR OUR CERTIFICATED STAFF, BUT THAT'S AT 22%. AND OUR HEALTH AND WELFARE AVERAGE COST IS AROUND $27,000 PER EMPLOYEE. SO THIS IS PUTTING A LOT OF PRESSURE ON OUR BUDGET. MOVING ON HERE, WE CAN NOW LOOK AT OKAY, THIS IS JUST FOR INFORMATION. IF WE LOOK AT A COST OF ONE FURLOUGH DAY FOR 
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ALL STAFF MEMBERS, THAT'S AT $1.1 MILLION SAVINGS TO THE BUDGET. AND THEN I BROKE IT DOWN BY DIFFERENT CATEGORIES JUST FOR YOUR YOUR INFORMATION, AND THEN GOING OVER TO THE RIGHT INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT FURLOUGH DAY, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE IF WE HAD A 1% AND 1% FOR THE DISTRICTS, ABOUT $2.7 MILLION. SO AGAIN, THAT WAS BROKEN DOWN BY CATEGORY. THAT WAS ASKED AS A QUESTION WITHIN THE BUDGET COMMITTEE CONVERSATION. THEY WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THOSE COSTS WERE. SO WE FIGURED THAT WE WOULD GET TO YOU AS WELL. YES. ARE YOU THINKING OF FURLOUGH DAYS? WELL, GO AHEAD THINKING OF EVERYTHING. THAT'S IT. WE'RE THINKING OF WHAT ARE ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN LOOK AT. AND PART OF TODAY'S CONVERSATION IS GETTING WITH YOU ALL TO ASK THE QUESTION, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR TOP PRIORITIES AND WHAT WOULD BE THE THINGS THAT YOU SAY? THIS WOULD BE THE LAST THING WE'D WANT YOU TO PUT ON THE LIST. THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST THING SO THAT WE CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH BUDGET MANAGERS THROUGHOUT OUR ORGANIZATION TO TALK ABOUT OUR BOARD'S PRIORITIES AS WE BUILD A BUDGET THAT WE BRING YOU, THAT REFLECTS THAT. AND THEN THIS DIAGRAM HERE, IT'S REALLY JUST TO GIVE A VISUAL TO HOW DO THE COSTS RELATE TO OUR, OUR CHILDREN AND OUR CLASSROOMS. SO RIGHT IN THE CENTER HERE YOU CAN SEE THIS IS STUDENT IN THE CLASSROOM WITH THEIR TEACHER MOVING OUT ON THE OVAL HERE THE GREEN IS DIRECT SUPPORTS FOR STUDENTS. AND THESE ARE DIRECT INTERVENTIONS AND SERVICES THAT HELP OUR OUR STUDENTS TO LEARN AND SUCCEED. AND SOME OF THOSE POSITIONS ARE LIKE OUR ADMINISTRATORS, OUR NURSES AND OUR AIDES. AND THEN MOVING OUT FURTHER FROM THAT, THIS YELLOW OVAL HERE IS WHAT ARE ALL OF THE AUXILIARY SUPPORTS THAT WE GIVE TO OUR STUDENTS. AND THOSE ARE THINGS LIKE TRANSPORTATION, CUSTODIAL AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO WE DID HAVE A BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING, AND A LOT OF THEM HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS. 
          AND SO THIS IS A SYNOPSIS OF WHAT'S BEING ASKED OF THE DISTRICT, SO THAT THEY CAN LOOK AT HOW WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT REDUCTIONS. AND SO I WANTED TO ALSO PRESENT THIS TO THE BOARD SO THAT YOU'LL HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE COMMITTEE. SO THEY THESE ARE THEIR WORDS. SO ARE WE LOOKING AT REDUCTIONS AWAY FROM THE CLASSROOM? HAS THERE BEEN A REVIEW OF THE DISTRICT'S PROGRAMS, COURSE OFFERINGS, PLATFORMS AND ELECTIVES TO DETERMINE EITHER CONSOLIDATING THEM OR REMOVING THEM? IS THERE CORRECT STAFFING AT THE DISTRICT OFFICE AND THE SCHOOL SITES? HOW MUCH MONEY IS BEING SPENT ON OVERTIME? SO THAT WAS A CONCERN. WHAT FORMULAS OR STAFFING RATIOS ARE BEING USED TO BUILD THE BUDGETS, AND WHAT DOES IT COST TO RUN A SCHOOL AND HAVE THE UNION CONTRACTS BEEN REVIEWED TO SEE IF THERE WOULD BE ANY COST SAVINGS RELATED TO RELEASE TIME, STAFFING RATIOS, ETC. SO THAT'S JUST A BIT OF INFORMATION. BEFORE YOU GO INTO THE DISCUSSION OF WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO. RELATE TO, WHEN WE START TO LOOK AT THESE DIFFERENT THINGS, CAN I ASK? I'M SORRY, WHO WHAT IS THE BUDGET COMMITTEE COMPRISED OF? LIKE IS IT BREAKDOWN? YES. SO WE HAD WE HAD OUR PRESIDENTS FROM MARYLAND WAS THERE. WE ALSO HAD OUR UNION PRESIDENTS, TWO THAT WERE THERE. WE HAD ALL OF US HERE FROM EXECUTIVE CABINET. WE HAD SOME OF OUR DIRECTOR MANAGEMENT THERE. WE HAD SOME OF OUR PRINCIPALS FROM EVERY GRADE LEVEL THERE ALSO. 
          SO WE WERE LOOKING FOR LIKE A OVERVIEW OF THE ENTIRE DISTRICT. WE DID NOT INCLUDE PARENTS IN THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME, JUST BECAUSE WE WANTED REALLY TO DIRECT IT TO JUST GATHERING SOME INFORMATION FROM THOSE DIFFERENT GROUPS. I KIND OF I WAS KIND OF CURIOUS IF THERE WAS PARENTS INVOLVED, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THIS IS A FIRST LEVEL PARENT INVOLVEMENT SITUATION. OKAY. SO IN LOOKING BOTH AT TIME AND THE NEED TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK, I TRIED TO CREATE A PROCESS THAT AT LEAST WOULD ALLOW US TO COME BACK TO YOU AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE HEARD FROM YOU. SO I, I CREATED A BIT OF A CLIFF NOTES PIECE TO KIND OF START WITH. WOULD YOU PASS THAT THAT WAY, PASS THAT, THAT WAY? WHAT I DID, I JUST CREATED A NOTE CATCHER WHERE I ASKED, THESE ARE ALL POTENTIAL CONSIDERATIONS. THEY ARE BY NO MEANS AN INCLUSIVE LIST, BUT THEY'RE AT LEAST A STARTING POINT FOR YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT. IT'S THINGS LIKE CLASS SIZE, EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES, EXTENDED DAY PROGRAMS, CURRICULUM, INVESTMENT CYCLES, HEALTHY FUND BALANCE, MAINTAINING WALKING DISTANCE FOR STUDENTS, INCREASING THE NUMBER OF YEARS IN BUS REPLACEMENT CYCLE. PRIORITIZE STAFF REDUCTIONS AT A DISTRICT LEVEL OVER STAFF. SCHOOL STAFF REDUCTIONS DO NOT FILL CURRENT VACANCIES UNLESS THERE ARE CRITICAL ROLE. ELIMINATE COURSE OFFERINGS WITH FEWER THAN EIGHT STUDENTS. PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, INVESTMENTS, TRAVEL, AND THEN OTHER OTHER. AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU EACH AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF THINK FOR A MOMENT AND PRIORITIZE FOR YOURSELF. WHAT 
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ARE THE TOP THREE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD SAY PROTECT, DO NOT REDUCE, AND WHAT ARE THE THREE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD ADVOCATE TO BE AT THE TOP OF? THE LIST OF THINGS THAT YOU WOULD SAY, THIS IS WHERE YOU SHOULD START. WHAT I'M GOING TO DO WITH THAT IS TRY TO FIGURE OUT SOME THEMATIC CONSENSUS FROM ALL OF YOU AND REPORT THAT BACK TO YOU TO SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE HEARD. 
          DO YOU AGREE? DO YOU NOT AGREE? AND LET'S ENGAGE IN A CONVERSATION. BUT AT LEAST TONIGHT I WANT TO JUST INITIALLY EACH OF YOU TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND AND THEN TO BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT YOU ALL GAVE US. AS FAR AS FEEDBACK, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THEY'RE ALREADY STARTING. SO YES, IT MUST. THE ONE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE ME THAT PIECE OF PAPER AT THE END OF THE DAY, JUST SO YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO TAKE IT JUST SO YOU KNOW. I NEED IT SO THAT I CAN COMPILE IT AND USE IT AS PART OF DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR CABINET TEAM TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE BEGIN TO PUT TOGETHER A LIST THAT'S INDICATIVE OF YOUR PRIORITIES? I JUST NEED TO KNOW IF I NEED TURN ON MY MIC. ONE THING I WILL SAY IS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE STAFF REDUCTIONS AT THE DISTRICT LEVEL OVER SCHOOL STAFF REDUCTIONS, LIKE, I WAS KIND OF APPALLED THAT WE HAVE WE PUT ANOTHER ADMIN POSITION AT ESPERANZA WHEN WE'RE IN SEVERE DECLINING ENROLLMENT OVER THERE, AND WE TOOK AWAY A FRENCH ONE CLASS LIKE THAT WAS HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAD ALL THESE EMAILS. AND SO AND IT WAS VERY I WAS SHOCKED THAT MU SERINO DENIED THAT HE HAD PUT IN. WHAT DID HE PUT IN OVER THERE? IT WAS AN. WHAT WAS THAT? YEAH, A DEAN OF STUDENTS AND YEAH, THERE'S A DEAN OF STUDENTS, ESPERANZA. AND SO HE MOVES A DISTRICT STAFF OVER TO AN ADMIN POSITION. ESPERANZA. 
          AND I ASKED HIM ABOUT THIS. I SAID, WHEN DID WE HAVE A DEAN OF STUDENTS? AS HE GOES, WELL, WE DON'T AND I SO I SENT HIM A SCREENSHOT OF THE DEAN OF STUDENTS AND I SAID, YES, WE DO. 
          HE SAYS, OH YEAH, I GUESS WE DO. AND SO THAT WAS A SLAP IN THE FACE TO ALL OF OUR FAMILIES, ESPERANZA, BECAUSE THEY GOT CLASSES, COURSE CLASSES TAKEN AWAY FROM THEIR STUDENTS, BUT THEN THEY PILED IT ON. WHILE YOU'RE TELLING ALL OF THE TEACHERS OVER THERE THAT THEY NEED TO GIVE STUFF UP AND THEY NEED TO DO THIS WHILE YOU'RE PILING MORE ON ADMINISTRATION. 
          SO I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE SHOULD NOT BE DOING. MY FIRST INSTINCT WOULD BE MY FIRST INSTINCT WOULD BE PRIORITIZE REDUCING STAFF AT THE DISTRICT LEVEL FIRST. 
          HOWEVER, IF THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE MOVING PEOPLE AND THEN IT'S IT'S GIVING US A INFLATED STAFF AT THE SCHOOL SITES, THEN THAT DOESN'T HELP ANYTHING. SO LET'S JUST LET'S JUST BE REALISTIC. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY ABOUT THAT. IF YOU MOVE PEOPLE, THE BOTTOM LINE IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE. WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE BUDGET REDUCTION. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE REDUCTIONS. YEAH YEAH YEAH OKAY. 
          JOAN, MAYBE I THINK THERE'S A QUESTION FOR YOU. THE THE THING IT SAYS INCREASED NUMBER OF YEARS IN BUS REPLACEMENT CYCLE. WHAT DOES THAT DO TO US IN CONTINUING MAINTENANCE. IF WE WERE TO LENGTHEN LIKE I KNOW THEY GET USED EVERY DAY. SO THOSE ARE THINGS. SO WE LOOK AT WE HAVE A REPLACEMENT PLAN THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT FOR OUR VEHICLES. SO IT'S REALLY MIGHT ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE MAINTENANCE TO THINGS AS WE KEEP THEM LONGER. BUT SAFETY IS OUR PRIORITY. SO WE MAKE SURE EVERYTHING GETS MAINTAINED. AND IF WE NEEDED TO GO OUT AND PURCHASE ADDITIONAL VEHICLES FOR WHATEVER REASON, WE WOULD DO IT JUST TO MAINTAIN OUR OUR PROGRAM. CAN WE NOT JUST SAY DON'T BUY NEW ONES UNTIL WE NEED THEM? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING, OKAY. AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE ACTUALLY DROPPED THIS YEAR A HALF $1 MILLION FROM THE TRANSPORTATION BUDGET. AND WE'RE NOT REPLACING VEHICLES THIS YEAR UNLESS WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO. SO. NIGHTS AND SATURDAYS DRIVING AROUND. AND I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES THAT THEY HAVE TO GO SIT IS THERE. SO WE HAVE OVERTIME REALLY DISTRICT WIDE. THERE'S OVERTIME IN OUR MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENTS, THERE'S OVERTIME IN OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENTS, FACILITIES OR FACILITY USE. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN GET 
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THE WORK DONE. BUT THAT IS DEFINITELY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS WHERE CAN WE START TO SAVE ON SOME OF THESE THINGS, AND HOW CAN WE DO THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. 
          BUT IT REALLY IS ACROSS A LOT OF OUR CLASSIFIED STAFF, NOT JUST TRANSPORTATION. WELL, FOR INSTANCE, AT YORBA LINDA HIGH SCHOOL, IN THE WEIGHT ROOM, IF THEY HAVE TO RENT OUT THE WEIGHT ROOM, THEY HAVE TO PAY A CUSTODIAN FEE. AND IT MAKES NO SENSE BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THERE FOR MAYBE 30 MINUTES TO AN HOUR, AND THE BOYS OR WHOEVER'S IN THERE WILL CLEAN IT THEMSELVES. 
          AND SO YOU'RE PAYING LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE RENTING OUT THE ROOM, BUT THEN YOU'RE THEN YOU'RE PAYING LIKE, WHAT, 150 BUCKS OR WHATEVER IT IS FOR CUSTODIAN. SO IS THERE SOME TYPE OF REGULATION THAT SAYS, IF WE RUN IT OUT, THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE CUSTODIAN BECAUSE THERE'S LIKE, WHAT, ONE BATHROOM IN THERE AND THEN THEY CAN WIPE DOWN THE I MEAN, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT'S LIKE STARTING TO SAY WE LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THAT AND SAY IF THE TEAM BECAUSE I MEAN, THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE RENTING OUT THE THING, THEY WOULD RATHER SAVE MONEY THAN PAY FOR A CUSTODIAN, ARE WE ABLE TO ARE WE ABLE TO HAVE LEEWAY OR IS THAT SOME TYPE OF A LAW? WELL, I'D HAVE TO LOOK UP IF THERE'S AN EXACT LAW THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE CUSTODIAL. BUT THE REASON THAT I KNOW THAT WE DO CUSTODIAL IS FOR SAFETY AND SANITATION REASONS. ANYTIME ANY OF OUR FACILITIES ARE USED, WE NEED TO BE CLEANING THOSE BATHROOMS AT A MINIMUM. SO MY MY THOUGHTS WOULD BE, CAN WE DO SOMETHING MAYBE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAT MAYBE THE NEXT MORNING WE USED CUSTODIAL TO CLEAN VERSUS THAT NIGHT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SO WE REALLY ARE STARTING TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS IN ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS ON CAN WE START LOOKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX AND CAN WE DO THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY? IS THERE ANY KIND OF WAY TO SAVE MONEY BUT GET THINGS DONE THAT WE NEED TO GET DONE? EFFICIENCY. 
          YEAH, BECAUSE IT WOULD MAKE SENSE IF, YOU KNOW, IF A TEAM USES A WEIGHT ROOM FOR AN HOUR AND THEN WE JUST COME IN THE NEXT MORNING AND CLEAN IT, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY WAITING AROUND THAT NIGHT. I MEAN, THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE. ALMOST TOO MUCH SENSE. I WOULD ASSUME THAT THERE'S SOME COMPONENT OF THAT. THAT IS, THERE'S SOME STAFF MEMBER THERE, LIKE JUST AS AS FAR AS A PERSON BEING THERE, WHETHER IT'S CUSTODIAN OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MATTERS. YEAH, YEAH. YEAH. SOMEONE HAS TO WRITE. MAINTAIN WALKING DISTANCE. THAT WOULD MEAN LIKE WE WOULD BE MOVING CLASSES FURTHER AWAY FOR. NO. TYPICALLY WHAT WE, WE HAVE A, A WALK RADIUS THAT IF YOU LIVE OUTSIDE OF THAT WE OFFER BUS SERVICES. AND IF YOU SAY MAINTAIN THAT, THEN WE KEEP OFFERING THE SAME AMOUNT OF BUSSING THAT WE OFFER. NOW, IF WE SAY INSTEAD OF A MILE AND A HALF WALK RADIUS, IT GOES TO TWO MILE RADIUS, THEN IS THERE A POTENTIAL SAVINGS IN THAT? THAT'S THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT A SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL LOOK AT. 
          GOT IT. I WAS THINKING INITIALLY OF THE ESPERANZA BRIDGE AND I'M LIKE, MAN, THOSE KIDS WALK A LONG WAYS. I DON'T MAKE THEM WALK ANY LONGER. NOW IT IS RIGHT AT 5:00. AND SO I WANT TO RESPECT EVERYBODY'S TIME. I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU PINKY SWEAR YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE ME THIS SHEET BEFORE YOU LEAVE TONIGHT, SO THAT THE CABINET TEAM AND I CAN COMPILE THIS AND SHARE IT BACK OUT WITH YOU IN A WEEKLY UPDATE. AND THEN FROM THERE, WE CAN SCHEDULE FUTURE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE BOARD AS WE PUT TOGETHER LISTS OF POTENTIAL REDUCTIONS THROUGH THE LENS THAT YOU OFFER US. DOES THAT SEEM REASONABLE? OKAY. THANK YOU. CAN YOU PASS THAT DOWN? GO AHEAD. YOU CAN ADD SOME. THINGS. OKAY. THIS IS THE WAY. SO IN EVERY DISTRICT I'VE EVER WORKED IN, THE FOUNDATION STARTING POINT, WHEN YOU BUILD A BUDGET, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT REDUCTIONS, IS TO START WITH WHAT THE BOARD'S PRIORITIES ARE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO THINK THROUGH THAT LENS AND OFFER A THOUGHTFUL BUDGET THAT REFLECTS THAT. AND SO ESPECIALLY IN REDUCTIONS, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. SO THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THAT INPUT. OKAY. THANK YOU JOAN OKAY. SO WE ARE GETTING READY TO MOVE TO CLOSED 
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LEAVE ASSIGNMENT. NON REELECTION. NON REAPPOINTMENT. RESIGNATION. REINSTATEMENT PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE 549574.2. PERSONNEL MATTERS. PUBLIC EMPLOYEE APPOINTMENTS. 
          EMPLOYMENT PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE 54957. CHIEF BUSINESS OFFICER 4.3 CONFERENCE WITH LABOR NEGOTIATIONS NEGOTIATORS. DOCTOR KIM LEBLANC ESPARZA. SUPERINTENDENT JOAN VELASCO, INTERIM ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT, BUSINESS SERVICES. YOLANDA MENDOZA, ACTING ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT, HUMAN RESOURCES WITH ALL THREE OF OUR UNION CSEA, APPLE AND PLUM 4.4 CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL, ANTICIPATED LITIGATION, SIGNIFICANT EXPOSURE TO LITIGATION PURSUANT TO PARAGRAPH TWO OF SUBDIVISION D, A GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION FIVE, 4956.91 CASE AND 4.5 CLAIMS GENERAL LIABILITY CLAIM NUMBER 655084 AND GENERAL LIABILITY CLAIM NUMBER 663700. DO WE HAVE ANYONE WANTING TO SPEAK? CLOSED SESSION OKAY, SO WE HAVE ZERO SPEAKERS. AND SO WE WILL ADJOURN TO CLOSED SESSION AT 505.
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