May 06, 2025 Board Meeting

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M CALLING THE MAY 6TH, 2025 MEETING OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION. PER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 54950 AT SEQUITUR AND EDUCATION CODE 35140A SEQUITUR AT 336. WE WILL

[2. PUBLIC COMMENT ON SEARCH FIRMS]

SUIT ON. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON. THREE DAYS IS HARDLY ENOUGH TIME TO FORM AN OPINION ABOUT WHICH SEARCH FIRM ON THE AGENDA BEST SUITS OUR DISTRICT'S NEEDS. SUFFICE IT TO SAY, I HOPE THIS BODY WILL USE THE LESSONS LEARNED FROM THE PRIOR SEARCH TO FIND SOMEONE TO LEAD THIS DISTRICT THAT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY CAN GET BEHIND. PROPER VETTING IS CRITICAL. ULTIMATELY, I DON'T KNOW IF THE PRIOR CHOICE WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT IF THE CANDIDATES WERE PROPERLY VETTED, BUT I SUSPECT IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN UNANIMOUS. A NON-UNANIMOUS CHOICE, LIKE THE ONES OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH JUST MADE, IS A RECIPE FOR DISASTER. THERE IS NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T FIND A CANDIDATE THAT THE ENTIRE BOARD CAN GET BEHIND. IF WE FOCUS ON THE TRUE MISSION OF OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, IT WILL BE DIFFICULT GIVEN THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT, BUT THAT SHOULD NOT DETER THIS ENTIRE BOARD FROM COMMITTING TO MAKE A UNIFIED DECISION. THE LAST FOUR YEARS HAS SEEN OUR DISTRICT GET BOGGED DOWN WITH CULTURE WAR ISSUES THAT FALL OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF OUR MISSION. WE ARE NEVER GOING TO RESOLVE THESE DISTRACTING ISSUES TO THE SATISFACTION OF OUR ENTIRE DIVERSE COMMUNITY. OUR ATTEMPTS TO DO SO WILL ONLY LEAD TO ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER.

ABANDONING HOPE. LET'S FIND A LEADER WHO WILL BRIDGE GAPS, NOT BROADEN THEM. LET'S FIND A LEADER WHO IS WILLING TO TRULY LISTEN TO ALL SIDES. INSTEAD OF SEEKING POLITICAL ALLIES. WE ARE AT A TIPPING POINT. NEXT YEAR, THERE WILL BE TWO INDEPENDENT CHARTER SCHOOLS OPERATING OUR DISTRICT, DRAWING SCARCE ADA RESOURCES FROM THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM. WE CAN'T AFFORD TO ENDLESSLY FIGHT THESE CULTURE WAR ISSUES. WE NEED TO GET BACK TO THE BASICS THAT ONCE MADE THE PYLUSD A DESTINATION DISTRICT. OUR FUTURE IS LARGELY IN YOUR HANDS. PLEASE TAKE CARE TO PROTECT US ALL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. OKAY, NOW WE WILL COMMENCE WITH OUR

[3. SEARCH FIRM INTERVIEWS]

AND TALK ABOUT SUPERINTENDENT. SEARCH FOR YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND I'D LIKE TO START BY INTRODUCING THE TEAM THAT IS NOT WITH ME TODAY, BUT I'M HERE. MY NAME IS DOCTOR STEVE CHESTNUT. I AM A FULL TIME RESIDENT. SCOTTSDALE, ARIZONA. I RETIRED THERE IN 2020 FROM SCOTTSDALE UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHERE I SERVED AS AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND ASSOCIATE SUPERINTENDENT.

PRIOR TO THAT, I WAS SUPERINTENDENT FOR SIX YEARS IN ARIZONA, IN THE SUBURBS, AND PRIOR TO THAT AS SUPERINTENDENT IN WASHINGTON STATE. FOR 21 YEARS. I'VE BEEN WORKING FOR RAY AND ASSOCIATES FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS AND ENJOY THIS WORK GREATLY. I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO A NUMBER OF SEARCHES ON THE WEST COAST, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE POSSIBILITY OF WORKING WITH YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. I HAVE A WONDERFUL TEAM THAT I WORK WITH, AND THE NEXT PERSON ON THE LIST THERE IS DOCTOR JAMES HAMMOND, WHO YOU MAY KNOW HE IS. GOING, MAN, I THOUGHT I HAD TEN MINUTES. IT'S GOING AS FAST AS I COULD. ANYWAY, DOCTOR JAMES HAMMOND, AS YOU MAY KNOW, IS THE SUPERINTENDENT OF THE ONTARIO MONTCLAIR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DISTRICT NEARBY. HE SERVED IN

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SHE HAS A LONG CAREER OF INVOLVEMENT IN EDUCATION, INCLUDING FOUNDING THE FIRST CHARTER SCHOOL IN HAWAII AND LIBRA. FORD IS A WONDERFUL MEMBER OF OUR TEAM. ALSO, MISTER RICHARD LASSO, WHO IS THE ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT FOR I'M SORRY. YES, ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT OF EQUITY AND INSTRUCTIONAL LEADERSHIP WITH THE PUYALLUP SCHOOL DISTRICT, A LARGE SUBURBAN DISTRICT OUTSIDE OF TACOMA, WASHINGTON. HE'S ALSO A NATIVE SPEAKER, SPEAKER OF SPANISH, AND HE'S BILINGUAL AND BI LITERATE IN SPANISH. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE RICHARD AS A PART OF OUR TEAM. SO WE HAVE A GOOD GROUP PREPARED TO WORK FOR YOU AND BRING THIS SEARCH TO LIFE.

SPENT A LOT OF TIME LOOKING AT YOUR WEBSITE AND RESEARCHING YOUR DISTRICT, AND WE'RE VERY IMPRESSED WITH YOUR MISSION, YOUR VISION, YOUR CORE VALUES, AND THE HISTORY OF EXCELLENCE IN THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT. ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE, OUTSTANDING REPUTATION. AND IT'S NOT VERY OFTEN YOU SEE AN OVERALL RATING ON NICHE.COM OF A+. BUT WONDERFUL TRADITION HERE. AND WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A WONDERFUL SCHOOL DISTRICT AND IT'S GOING TO ATTRACT SOME GREAT CANDIDATES. OUR STRENGTHS, PROBABLY THE MAIN STRENGTHS. AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH A LOT OF THEM THERE. BUT THE MAIN STRENGTH IS WE'RE COMMITTED TO BRING YOU THE BEST CANDIDATES TO MEET THE NEEDS OF YOUR DISTRICT AND YOUR COMMUNITY. WE REALIZE THAT SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE A COMMUNITY ENTERPRISE, AND THAT ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY INVOLVING THEM IN THIS PROCESS IS CRUCIAL. INVOLVING YOUR STAFF, INVOLVING YOUR PARENTS, INVOLVING YOUR STUDENTS, GETTING THEM INVOLVED IN THIS DECISION IS IMPORTANT, AND YOU WANT THEIR FEEDBACK AND YOU WANT THEIR INPUT AS YOU MAKE THESE DECISIONS THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. BUT WE ARE COMMITTED TO AN INCLUSIVE PROCESS THAT ENSURES A DIVERSE CANDIDATE POOL. WE ARE CURRENTLY WRAPPING UP THE SEARCH FOR THE NORTHSHORE SCHOOL DISTRICT SUBURB OF SEATTLE AND DISTRICT, VERY MUCH LIKE THIS ONE. HIGH ACTIVITY, HIGH ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT SCHOOL DISTRICT ABOUT THE SAME SIZE. AND WE HAVE A IT'S A WONDERFULLY DIVERSE COMMUNITY AS WELL. AND WE HAD A VERY EXCELLENT, DIVERSE POOL OF CANDIDATES AS WE BROUGHT THE FIRST SLATE TO THE BOARD, AND WE ENDED UP WITH 32 COMPLETED APPLICATIONS, AND ABOUT HALF OF THEM. HISTORICALLY MARGINALIZED CANDIDATES, RACIAL, ETHNIC MINORITIES, WOMEN. WE HAD A GOOD, DIVERSE POOL, AND THE BOARD IS VERY PLEASED. THEY STILL HAVE A FEW STEPS TO GO BEFORE THEY GET THEIR FINAL DECISION MADE, BUT WE'RE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS THERE. THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING ON A REGULAR BASIS. OUR PROCESS IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. WE JUST HAVE FIVE STAGES, AND IF YOU HAVE YOUR RFQ RESPONSE, IT'S ON PAGE EIGHT AND THERE'S A ONE PAGE SUMMARY OF THE TIMELINE THERE, WHICH I THINK IS VERY HELPFUL TO LOOK AT. BUT WE HAVE PROPOSED A TIMELINE OF FOUR MONTHS TO GET THROUGH THESE FIVE STAGES. AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT WILL INCLUDE FIVE MEETINGS WITH THE BOARD, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, TO KEEP THE BOARD INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS IS VERY CRUCIAL. AND THOSE MEETINGS CAN BE IN-PERSON, THEY CAN BE VIRTUAL, THEY CAN BE BOTH. BUT THERE ARE IMPORTANT MILESTONE MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE ALONG THE WAY AND THOSE ARE LISTED THERE. BUT REALLY WE JUST GO THROUGH FIVE STAGES. AND THE FIRST STAGE WE CALL THE BOARD INPUT STAGE. AND THAT INCLUDES FIRST ESTABLISHING THE OFFICIAL TIMELINE. WE'VE JUST PUT A SUGGESTED TIMELINE IN THERE OF APPROXIMATELY FOUR MONTHS. WE CAN MAKE IT LONGER. WE CAN MAKE IT SHORTER. WE HAVE TO WORK AROUND YOUR FALL BREAKS OR YOUR VACATIONS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. AND WE WOULD FINALIZE THAT WITH YOU, OF COURSE. AND THEN WE WILL START THE PROCESS TO DEVELOP THE PROFILE OF THE IDEAL CANDIDATE. AND WE'LL NEVER FIND THE PERFECT CANDIDATE. BUT WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT PERFECT PERSON MIGHT LOOK LIKE IF WE COULD FIND HIM OR HER. AND SO THAT IS A PART OF OUR PROCESS IS TO WORK ON THAT PROFILE, WHICH I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT IN A MOMENT. WE DO BOARD ONE ON ONE INTERVIEWS JUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE CONSULTING TEAM, SO WE CAN KNOW WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. IT'S CONFIDENTIAL. IT'S ONLY FOR OUR INFORMATION, BUT THAT HELPS US GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IN YOUR NEXT SUPERINTENDENT. AND WE ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE NAIL DOWN CANDIDATE COMPENSATION, WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. SO WE WANT TO BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ADVERTISE THAT WHEN WE FIRST GO OUT WITH THE SEARCH. BUT ALL IN ALL, IT IS YOUR SEARCH. AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT OUR SEARCH. WE'RE HERE TO BE YOUR PARTNERS IN THIS SEARCH, AND WE'LL WORK WITH YOU TO MAKE IT YOUR SEARCH AND MAKE IT WORK FOR YOU. STAGE TWO. WE CALL THAT THE DISTRICT PROFILE DEVELOPMENT. SO THERE'S REALLY TWO MAIN THINGS THAT GO INTO THAT. WE RECOMMEND STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS TO INVOLVE YOUR COMMUNITY IN THIS IMPORTANT DECISION. AND SO YOU COME UP WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS YOU WANT US TO MEET WITH. WE'VE MET WITH AS MANY AS 25 DIFFERENT GROUPS, SOME SMALL, SOME LARGE. WE CAN

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IT'S UP TO YOU AND WHAT YOU THINK YOUR NEEDS ARE. BUT WE GATHER THAT INFORMATION, THAT FEEDBACK ON WHAT THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHAT STAFF, PARENTS, STUDENTS, BUSINESS LEADERS, PTAS, WHAT THE BROAD SPECTRUM OF THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING FOR. AND WE SUMMARIZE THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU TO LOOK AT, TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT THE STAKEHOLDERS ARE LOOKING FOR IN THE NEW SUPERINTENDENT. SO THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS. THE OTHER PART IS OUR 31 QUALITIES ASSESSMENT, WHICH IS A SURVEY WHICH WOULD GO ON YOUR WEBSITE.

AND WE ASK PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT SURVEY. AND THEN WE KEEP THAT OPEN FOR TWO, THREE, FOUR WEEKS. IT'S LISTED IN THE TIMELINE THERE. ONCE THAT SURVEY IS CLOSED, THEN WE PRESENT THAT INFORMATION TO THE BOARD AND IT'S DISAGGREGATED BY GROUP. SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT PARENTS THINK, WHAT TEACHERS THINK, WHAT CLASSIFIED STAFF THINK, WHAT ADMINISTRATORS THINK, STUDENTS PARENTS, ETC. AND YOU GET A GOOD VIEW OF WHAT THE STAKEHOLDERS ARE INTERESTED IN AS FAR AS CHARACTERISTICS OF THE IDEAL CANDIDATE, WE COMBINE THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER AND THE BOARD MAKES THE FINAL DECISIONS ON THE PROFILE OF THE IDEAL CANDIDATE. AND THEN OF COURSE, WE USE THAT PROFILE WHEN WE'RE RECRUITING SCREENING. AND THEN YOU'LL USE IT AS YOU MAKE YOUR FINAL SELECTION. SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR PROCESS. NEXT UP STAGE THREE IS THE RECRUITMENT STAGE. OOPS. THANK YOU. STAGE THREE IS RECRUITMENT. AND WE AGGRESSIVELY RECRUIT TOP CANDIDATES. WE HAVE A NATIONAL GROUP OF CONSULTANTS. WE ARE A NATIONAL FIRM BEEN AROUND FOR 45 YEARS. WE HAVE A GOOD REPUTATION AND WE HAVE PEOPLE IN THE JOB MARKET LOOKING LOOKING AT OUR WEBSITE AND CONTACTING OUR ASSOCIATES WHEN THERE IS A JOB. AND WE DO A VERY AGGRESSIVE JOB OF REACHING OUT TO THE PEOPLE WE KNOW THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED, INTERESTED IN THIS. DOCTOR JAMES HAMMOND, OF COURSE, WILL BE OUR MAIN PERSON ON THE GROUND HERE IN CALIFORNIA TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENED. WE'RE VERY PROUD OF OUR NATIONAL SEARCH BECAUSE WE WANT TO BRING IN A DIVERSE POOL OF CANDIDATES. WE KNOW THAT OFTENTIMES SUPERINTENDENT POSITIONS ARE FILLED BY IN-STATE CANDIDATES. THAT'S THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE. IT'S VERY MUCH A STATE ORIENTED BUSINESS. BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE ARE ALSO SOME EXCELLENT CANDIDATES FROM OUTSIDE THE STATE THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN MOVING TO A PLACE LIKE THIS, WHICH IS SUCH AN EXCELLENT DISTRICT IN A HIGHLY DESIRABLE PLACE TO LIVE. AND THAT WOULD BE VERY ATTRACTIVE TO MANY CANDIDATES WE KNOW. AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR RECRUITMENT. WE DO A LOT OF ADVERTISING, OF COURSE. WE'LL BRING YOU A LIST OF ADVERTISING VENUES THAT WE RECOMMEND, AND WE WILL RECRUIT AGGRESSIVELY. OKAY.

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

THEN YOU'LL COMPLETE THAT FIRST ROUND OF INTERVIEWS, AND THEN WE WILL ASSIST YOU IN MAKING THE SELECTION FOR FINAL INTERVIEWS. AND THEN FINALLY, OF COURSE, YOU'LL SELECT YOUR NEW SUPERINTENDENT AT THE END OF THE PROCESS. ANY QUESTIONS? DID DID YOU GUYS GIVE US A PRICE? YES.

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I'M JUST REFLECTING ON WHAT OUR NORMAL MODEL IS. YES. OKAY. CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR RETENTION RATE? MAYBE IN THE SHORTER LAST FEW YEARS VERSUS, YOU KNOW, THE DURATION, BUT WHAT HAS IT BEEN IN THE LAST HANDFUL? PRIOR TO COVID, IT WAS MUCH HIGHER. AND THAT HAS CHANGED IN RECENT YEARS. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR FOUR YEARS. I'VE PLACED ABOUT 6 OR 8 SUPERINTENDENTS AND THEY'RE ALL STILL ON THE JOB, SO I'M PROUD OF THAT. NATIONALLY, WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW 3 TO 4 YEARS SUPERINTENDENTS ARE STAYING. THINGS SEEM TO BE GETTING BACK TO NORMAL. I THINK THAT'S HELPING. BUT YES, THE WHOLE POST-COVID ERA WAS AN INTERESTING TIME AND THERE WAS A FAIR AMOUNT OF TURNOVER AS A RESULT. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. THE FIRST ONE IS REGARDING YOUR TIMELINE. IN HERE. YOU STATE THAT YOU WON'T WE WON'T BE BEGINNING TILL AUGUST. IS THAT IS THERE A WAY TO MOVE THAT UP TO START? YES, ABSOLUTELY. IMMEDIATELY WE ARE ABLE TO START IMMEDIATELY. YES. THAT WAS JUST A SUGGESTED TIMELINE. JUST TO GIVE YOU A ROUGH IDEA OF BEGINNING TO END. OKAY. AND THEN WITH THE ADVERTISING IT, WHEN I WAS READING YOUR PROPOSAL, THERE WAS LIKE A LIST OF PUBLICATIONS, AND YOU SAID THAT AS WELL. IS THAT YOU? YOU COME TO THE BOARD AND ASK, WHICH ONES IS THERE? SO MANY INCLUDED. I'M JUST TRYING TO. YEAH, TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THAT. YES. THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE INCLUDED FOR FREE, OF COURSE. AND THEN THERE IS A RECOMMENDED LIST THAT WE LET THE BOARD MAKE THE FINAL DECISION ON, AND THAT I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THAT WAS LISTED ON THE COST PAGE, LIKE PAGE 6 OR 14.

ONE OF THE TWO. YEAH, MY NOTES ARE. BUT YES, THE BOARD MAKES A FINAL DECISION ON PAID ADVERTISING. WHICH ONES ARE INCLUDED? OF COURSE OUR WEBSITE IS INCLUDED AND WE GET A LOT OF HITS EVERY MONTH. EDUCATION WEEK NEWSPAPER OF RECORD IS INCLUDED. AND THEN TYPICALLY YOUR STATE SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION, YOUR STATE SUPERINTENDENT ASSOCIATION IS FREE, ALTHOUGH THAT VARIES FROM STATE TO STATE DEPENDING ON YOUR MEMBERSHIP AND THAT KIND OF THING. BUT NASA IS PROBABLY THE MAIN PLACE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO ADVERTISE, AND THAT IS PAID. OKAY. IS THAT A STAND ALONE ARTICLE JUST FOR OUR DISTRICT, OR IS THAT LIKE A GROUP? ADVERTISEMENT. IT WOULD BE AN ASA, FOR EXAMPLE. IT WOULD BE STAND ALONE. BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE DIFFERENT OPTIONS OF PACKAGES THAT YOU CAN APPLY FOR NASA, SOME A LITTLE BIT MORE. WHERE DID YOU GET THAT PACKAGE? THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA PRINTED. THIS WAS THE ATTACHMENT ON THE AGENDA. I DON'T HAVE IT. THANK YOU. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. HOW WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF OUTSIDE LIKE NATIONAL PLACEMENTS OUTSIDE THE STATE HAVE YOU PLACED OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS COMMONLY OR. YOU KNOW, IT VARIES. FOR EXAMPLE, NORTH SHORE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WE'RE JUST IN THE FIRST ROUND INTERVIEWING SIX PEOPLE IN THE FIRST ROUND THIS WEEK. IN FACT, OUT OF 32 APPLICANTS, ABOUT HALF WERE FROM OUT OF STATE. THE OTHER HALF WERE NOT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'LL END UP, BUT THAT GIVES YOU AN EXAMPLE. I THINK, OF THE CANDIDATE POOL. DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION? YES. I'M JUST WONDERING HOW COMMON IT IS FOR TO GO STATE TO STATE. SURE. OKAY I APOLOGIZE.

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I'M SORRY. OKAY. WE HAVE. SORRY. SORRY I GOT DISTRACTED. THE NATIONAL QUESTION. AND THEN TODD DISTRACTED ME. YEAH. THAT'S OKAY. I WAS DISTRACTED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, YOU KNOW? I DIDN'T HEAR THE ANSWER. OKAY. OKAY. ALSO, YOU TALK ABOUT FOCUS GROUPS, AND I THINK YOU SAID THAT IN YOUR PRESENTATION YOU'VE MET LIKE WITH 23. IS THAT CORRECT? AT WE GET TO CHOOSE THOSE GROUPS. AND HOW MANY OR IS THERE LIKE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DAYS THAT IT'S CAPPED OR THINGS LIKE THAT? NO, THAT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU. IT CAN TAKE TWO, THREE, FOUR DAYS TO GET THROUGH ALL THOSE GROUPS AND THEY CAN BE LARGE AND SMALL. IT'S UP TO YOU. YOU CAN STRUCTURE WHATEVER YOU WANT AND SOMETIMES SOME ARE VIRTUAL, SOME ARE IN PERSON. BUT WE'LL JUST NEGOTIATE THAT AND FIGURE IT OUT. AND IT'S ALL PART OF OUR PROPOSAL. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND AS FAR AS THE SURVEYS, I KNOW YOU PROBABLY HAVE A BASE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ASK. WE'RE ABLE TO TAILOR IT TO WHAT WE NEED AS WELL. WE HAVE STANDARD SURVEY, BUT YES, WE CAN MAKE CHANGES. DO YOU FIND THAT FEEDBACK FROM IN-PERSON VERSUS VIRTUAL VARIES GREATLY? WELL, OBVIOUSLY VIRTUAL ARE MORE EFFICIENT. SO BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE'S MORE VALUE IN IN-PERSON THEY'RE HARDER TO GET LONGER TIME FRAME. JUST CURIOUS RIGHT. IN-PERSON IS ALWAYS BETTER. BUT ALSO IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EVENING TIME, YOU WANT TO ENGAGE PARENTS. I DON'T KNOW YOUR COMMUNITY REALLY WELL.

PEOPLE ARE MUCH MORE ACCUSTOMED TO GOING VIRTUAL THAN THEY USED TO BE. I'VE SEEN HYBRID SITUATIONS WORK WHERE YOU HAVE SOME IN THE ROOM, AND THE ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY, SO THERE'S A VARIETY OF WAYS YOU CAN DO IT, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, I PREFER DOING THE IN-PERSON STAKEHOLDER GROUPS MYSELF IN PERSON. DOES THAT EXTEND TIME, LIKE AS FAR AS TO GET THE SEARCH TO GET PAST THAT PHASE? WELL, WE CAN GENERALLY COME UP WITH A I'VE EVEN THOUGH WE'VE HAD AS MANY AS 25 GROUPS, AND THAT DID INCLUDE SOME, SOME VIRTUAL ONES AND 3 OR 4 OF US WORKING AT THE SAME TIME. BUT GENERALLY WE TRY TO GET IT DONE IN 2 TO 3 DAYS. YOU COULD EVEN TAKE A FOURTH DAY, BUT TRY AND GET IT DONE THE SAME WEEK, GET THEM ALL DONE AND IT'S DOABLE. TWO QUESTIONS. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MAYBE THE BENEFIT OF DOING THE SURVEY BEFORE WE LEAVE FOR SUMMER BREAK VERSUS DOING THAT AS SOON AS WE COME BACK WHEN THE SCHOOL STARTS? AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS REGARDING THIS, THE FINAL INTERVIEW. WHEN YOU'RE ARE THERE ANY PRESENTATIONS OR OR ACTIVITIES THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THE SUPERINTENDENTS PREPARE FOR THAT INTERVIEW? YEAH, TWO GOOD QUESTIONS. THE TIMING OF THE SURVEY IS IMPORTANT. SUMMER VACATION OBVIOUSLY IS A BIG DEAL. SO YOU KNOW YOUR COMMUNITY BETTER THAN WE DO, BUT WE'D WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A TIME WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO REALLY RESPOND TO THAT SURVEY. AND IN NORTH SHORE DISTRICT OF ABOUT 22,000, WE GOT BACK 2000 RESPONSES, OVER 1000 PARENTS. WE THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY GOOD. YOU NEVER GET AS MANY AS YOU REALLY WANT, BUT THAT WAS A GOOD RESPONSE RATE. WE FELT. AND IT WAS IN THE SPRING. IT WAS JUST A MONTH AGO, SO IT WAS CLOSELY RELATED TO THE TIMING OF THE OF THE INTERVIEWS. BUT THAT'S A QUESTION I THINK WE'D HAVE TO HAVE SOME MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT. BUT I'M SURE WE CAN COME UP WITH THE BEST PLAN, DEPENDING ON THE TIMING OR THE TIMELINE. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE FINAL PROCESS, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, WE RECOMMEND SOME KIND OF A TOWN HALL EVENT WHERE FINALISTS CAN MEET THE COMMUNITY SO THAT PEOPLE CAN COME OUT. PARENTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, OBVIOUSLY, THE FINAL INTERVIEWS ARE THE FINAL INTERVIEW DAY OR DAYS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE PROCESS. SO MOST DISTRICTS HAVE EACH CANDIDATE FOR ONE DAY. NORTH SHORE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH IN SEATTLE RIGHT NOW IS HAVING A TWO DAY PROCESS FOR EACH OF THE FINALISTS. BUT IN NORTH SHORE, EACH OF THOSE CANDIDATE CANDIDATES WILL END THEIR TWO DAYS WITH A TOWN HALL SESSION, AND WE HELP FACILITATE THOSE.

YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT PRESENTATIONS. I HAVE SEEN SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT HAVE ASKED FOR A PRESENTATION BY THE FINALIST CANDIDATES AS PART OF THAT TOWN HALL OR AS PART OF THE INTERVIEW. SO THERE'S A VARIETY OF WAYS YOU CAN GO WITH THIS KIND OF THING. WE'D LOVE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT AND DECIDE WHAT'S THE BOARD'S PLEASURE IS. CAN YOU EXPAND ON THE TWO DAY WHAT WHAT ARE THEY DOING FOR THOSE TWO DAYS THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE MAINLY THEY'RE MEETING WITH A LOT OF SMALL GROUPS, BOTH STAFF AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, STUDENTS, PARENTS, COMMUNITY LEADERS. AND SO A NUMBER AND SOME SCHOOL TOURS, BOARD INTERVIEW, OF COURSE. AND THEN THE TOWN HALL.

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VARIETY OF WAYS TO DO IT. AND I'M GLAD THAT. OKAY. NO, YOUR HONOR. OKAY. I'M GLAD THAT KERRY ASKED THAT QUESTION ABOUT THE PRESENTATIONS, BECAUSE THE LAST SEARCH THAT WE HAD, I DID LIKE THE FACT THAT THE FINALISTS, WE HAD FOUR FINALISTS AND THEY ALL CAME IN AND THEY PRESENTED A 20 MINUTE PRESENTATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE PROS AND THE CONS, YOU KNOW, THE IMPROVEMENTS NEED, THE NEEDS TO IMPROVE ALL OF THAT THING, WHICH IT REALLY MADE THE CANDIDATES LIKE STUDY THE DISTRICT. YOU COULDN'T JUST COME IN WITH YOUR ANSWERS, YOU KNOW, LIKE SOME ANSWERS YOU REALLY HAD TO STUDY. SO IT KIND OF REALLY SHOWED THAT THEY DID WANT THE JOB AND THEY HAD INVESTED SOME TIME IN THAT. SO I WAS GLAD THAT THAT THAT COULD BE AN OPTION, BECAUSE IT WAS KIND OF A COOL WAY TO, YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF START THE INTERVIEW OFF AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT WAS EASY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS BASED OFF OF THE PRESENTATION. SURE. IS THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? WE'VE KIND OF USED UP OUR TIME. MY. WELL, WE HAVE FOUR. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.

TALK TO ME ABOUT THE TRANSITION PHASE. ONCE ONE IS HIRED, DO YOU CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE BOARD? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? RIGHT. WE DO A SURVEY OF BOARD MEMBERS AND THEN SHARE THOSE RESULTS WITH THE BOARD IMMEDIATELY AFTER HIRING, AND I BELIEVE SEVERAL MONTHS LATER, HOW THAT IS, HOW THAT WORKS. WE'RE ALSO CONNECTED WITH OUR PARENT COMPANY CALLED THE CENTER FOR EFFECTIVE SCHOOL OPERATIONS. AND THERE'S A PAGE IN THE RFP, RFQ RESPONSE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE DIFFERENT SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE AS FAR AS MENTORING OR STRATEGIC PLANNING OR BOARDS, BOARDS, BOARD TRAINING AND THAT KIND OF THING. SO WE HAVE A SUITE OF PACKAGES, A SUITE OF SERVICES THAT WE CAN PROVIDE, BUT THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED IN THE BASE FEE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ONE MORE THING. AND THIS IS I THINK IT SHOULD BE QUICK. REALISTICALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROCESS AND YOU SAY WE'RE STARTING THE INTERVIEWS TODAY, WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE WOULD BE THE EARLIEST AND THE LATEST THAT WE COULD EXPECT TO BE FINISHED AND HIRED WITH A NEW SUPERINTENDENT? I WOULD SAY FOUR MONTHS IS A GOOD ESTIMATE. WE'VE DONE THEM FASTER. FOUR MONTHS IS A NICE PACE. IT'S NOT TOO FAST BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE RUSHED IN THIS PROCESS. SO YOU

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YEAH. YOU'RE YOU'RE ON THE WAY. AND THAT'S THAT'S RIGHT. AND I KNOW WE I KNOW WE CHANGED THE ORDER SO. THAT'S NOT YOURS. NO. THIS IS THE GROUP I APOLOGIZE. NO WORRIES. SO WHICH ONE ARE YOU? I'M THE NEXT ONE. DO YOU WANT COSTCO TO GO NEXT? BECAUSE THEY WERE NEXT UP. THEY CAN.

OKAY. NO, I MESSED IT UP, SO I GOT TO GO. I'M. WE'RE AFTER THEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK WE GOT OUT OF ORDER THERE. PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU'RE ALL SET. YES WE ARE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT ANDERSON. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MY NAME IS CLINT HARWICK. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF EDUCATION LEADERSHIP SERVICES. AND WE'RE HAPPY TO PRESENT TONIGHT ON THE PROCESS OF SELECTING A SUPERINTENDENT. THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION YOU CAN MAKE AS A BOARD OF EDUCATION IS TO SELECT A SUPERINTENDENT THAT MATCHES YOUR COMMUNITY NEEDS AND BUILDS A TEAM THAT CAN SUPPORT STUDENTS. THERE WAS AN OLD ADAGE THAT I HEARD WHEN I WAS SUPERINTENDENT MANY YEARS AGO, BEEN SUPERINTENDENT FOR 21 YEARS. THEY SAID THE JOB OF A SUPERINTENDENT IS TO REMOVE ADULT BARRIERS FROM STUDENT SUCCESS, AND SO HAVING A SUPERINTENDENT THAT CAN COALESCE A BOARD AND TEAM MEMBERS TOWARDS A COMMON GOAL OF HELPING STUDENTS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT JOB THEY CAN DO THROUGHOUT A DISTRICT. SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US. TWO OF US WILL BE HANDLING THE MAJORITY OF THE SEARCH, BUT YOU WILL HAVE ACCESS TO ALL 20 MEMBERS OF THE ELS TEAM. BUT THE TWO THAT ARE HANDLING THE SEARCH, THE INITIAL PROCESS WILL BE MYSELF, CLINT HARWICK, DOES IT POP UP ON THE SCREEN? DOES IT GO NEXT? DO ONE MORE? YEAH.

PERFECT. THERE WE GO. LOOK AT THAT. MY REALTOR PHOTO. AND THERE'S ROB VOORS AS WELL. AS I MENTIONED, I WAS A SUPERINTENDENT FOR 21 YEARS IN THREE DIFFERENT COUNTIES SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY, ORANGE COUNTY, LA COUNTY. EACH ONE OF THOSE HAD DIFFERENT FACETS THAT YOU WORK THROUGH. SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY BEING SMALLER COUNTY OF 30 SUPERINTENDENTS. SAME WITH ORANGE COUNTY, AND THEN LA COUNTY WITH 88. GOT A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO INTERACT WITH A NUMBER OF SUPERINTENDENTS AND STAFF MEMBERS AND BOARD MEMBERS THROUGHOUT MY EDUCATIONAL CAREER. BUT BEFORE THAT, I STARTED AS A CUSTODIAN AND A SUBSTITUTE TEACHER AND WORKED IN OTHER UNION GROUPS, WHICH I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE AS WE LOOK TO DO OUR SURVEYS AND MEETING ONE ON ONES, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE MEET WITH MANY CONSTITUENTS IN YOUR DISTRICT, NOT JUST THE TEACHERS OR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BUT CLASSIFIED MEMBERS, ADMIN STAFF AND OTHERS AUXILIARY STAFF THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT. IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK.

WE'LL BE DOING THAT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS OF BEING IN MULTIPLE SCHOOL SITES AT DIFFERENT TIMES WITH DIFFERENT PURPOSE. THE CUSTODIAN THAT BELIEVES THAT A CLEAN SCHOOL IS A WELL-RUN SCHOOL IS THE SAME AS A PRINCIPAL WHO BELIEVES THAT'S IMPORTANT, OR A BOARD MEMBER THAT HAS CONSTITUENCY GROUPS THAT SAYS RUNNING OUR CAMPUS A CERTAIN WAY IS IMPORTANT TO US.

SO OUR BREADTH OF HISTORY, I THINK, IS VERY IMPORTANT. ROB VAUS, 38 YEARS IN EDUCATION IN DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS, LA COUNTY AND IN ORANGE COUNTY. HE WAS THE SUPERINTENDENT OF GLENDORA FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS. SO LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT ELS AND HOW WE'RE DIFFERENT THAN SOME OTHERS. DID I GO ON TOO MANY? NO. BACK. ALL RIGHT. TECHNOLOGY AT ITS FINEST. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. THE ELS DISTRICT DIFFERENCE. WE HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF TODAY'S EDUCATIONAL LANDSCAPE. OF OUR 20 MEMBERS, WE'VE ALL BEEN RETIRED IN THE LAST 3 OR 4 YEARS. GIVE US A GOOD SENSE OF WHAT HAS GONE ON IN EDUCATION AND ALSO A RELEVANCY THAT MAYBE SOME OTHER SEARCH FIRMS MAY NOT HAVE, IN THAT WE'RE CURRENT IN THE FIELD, WE'RE NETWORKED AND CONNECTED,

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IT WAS GREAT TO US WHETHER WE HAD EDUCATION IN COUNTY HERE IN CALIFORNIA OR OTHER STATES, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO GIVE BACK TO COMMUNITIES AND TO EDUCATIONAL AGENCIES. WE HAVE A BOARD MEMBER, THE CURRENT BOARD MEMBER IN LAKE ELSINORE, HEIDI DODD. SHE'LL BE A PART OF THE PROCESS AS WELL, BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT SOMETIMES BOARD MEMBERS WANT TO SPEAK TO ANOTHER ELECTED, AND WE CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH HER AS WELL. IF YOU FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD GIVE YOU A COMFORT LEVEL. TO GET THE INPUT, YOU NEED TO SELECT THE SUPERINTENDENT. WE ALSO HAVE CBOS, HR DIRECTORS, AND OTHERS THAT ONCE A SUPERINTENDENT IS SELECTED, WE CAN PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THEM. THAT'S ALL PART OF OUR FEE. WE HAVE HIGHER EDUCATION CONNECTIONS AS WELL. USC CHAPMAN, PACIFIC UNIVERSITY OF LAVERNE. AND WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT HAVING THOSE CONNECTIONS, CLAREMONT COLLEGES, IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THOSE CONNECTIONS TO HIGHER ED. AND MANY OF US TEACH IN THOSE UNIVERSITIES. SO WE SEE THE UP AND COMERS WHEN THEY ARE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF BEING AN ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT, DIRECTOR OF CURRICULUM, A CVO.

AND THEN WHEN THEY BECOME SUPERINTENDENTS, WE HAVE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM. WE THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, THAT WE KNOW PEOPLE PERSONALLY WHEN WE BRING THEM AS CANDIDATES. LET'S LOOK AT SOME OF THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE HAVE AND WE'LL SEE IF THIS ORDER CAME OUT CORRECTLY.

THERE WE GO. SOME OF THE PARTNERS THAT WE ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IS AASA. YOU MENTIONED THE REA GROUP MENTIONED THEM AS WELL. ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS, SMALL SCHOOL DISTRICTS ASSOCIATION. WE DO A NUMBER OF SEARCHES IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. SO WE HAVE A GREAT OUTREACH IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA AND ALSO NORTHEAST CALIFORNIA SUBURBAN SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENTS. IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD OF THEM, THAT'S A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION, 100 SUPERINTENDENTS SELECTED FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY MEET IN A THINK TANK EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

THOSE ARE ACTIVES AS WELL AS 50 HONORARIES. THAT'S A WONDERFUL LIAISON TO BE ABLE TO NETWORK WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. IN FACT, JUST EARLIER TODAY, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH A CANDIDATE FROM WISCONSIN THAT WAS REFERRED TO ME FROM SOMEBODY FROM CHICAGO AND SAID THIS WOULD BE A PERSON THAT MIGHT MEET ONE OF YOUR SEARCH NEEDS. SO I WAS DOING AN INFORMAL INTERVIEW TO SEE IF THEY WOULD WANT TO BE A CANDIDATE. SO WE HAVE A NATIONAL OUTREACH, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE LOCALIZED TO CALIFORNIA AND UNDERSTAND THE CALIFORNIA LANDSCAPE. ASSOCIATION OF LATINO SUPERINTENDENTS, ADMINISTRATORS, CALIFORNIA SCHOOL BOARDS ASSOCIATION, AS WE MENTIONED, HEIDI DODD, ALSO SUSAN HENRY. I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH HER AS WELL. AND THE NATIONAL SCHOOL BOARDS ASSOCIATION, AS WE MENTIONED, USC AND DIFFERENT COLLEGES THROUGHOUT THE WESTERN UNITED STATES. NOW, THE BEST PART, I THINK, OF ANY PRESENTATION IS THIS SLIDE. WE ALWAYS PUT IT IN THERE IN THAT IT REMINDS US WHO WE TRULY ARE SERVING AND PLACENTIA-YORBA LINDA IS A LARGE DISTRICT, BUT IT HAS A COMMUNITY FEEL. I WORKED IN A LARGE DISTRICT WITH A COMMUNITY FEEL. SADDLEBACK 33 SCHOOLS. EACH SCHOOL HAD KIND OF ITS OWN CULTURE, HAD ITS OWN COMMUNITY, AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU GET TO EVERY ONE OF THOSE SITES OR HAVE COALESCED SITES TOGETHER IN THAT YOU CAN FIND OUT WHAT THEY WANT IN A SUPERINTENDENT, WHAT THEY WANT IN A SCHOOL DISTRICT. BECAUSE AS YOU LOOK AT THAT SCREEN, YOU SEE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES REPRESENTED UP THERE, AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU GET THE INPUT NECESSARY TO FIND THE SUPERINTENDENT YOU NEED AND HAVE THEM BUILD A TEAM THAT THEY NEED AS WELL. IT'S NOT JUST THE SUPERINTENDENT YOU'RE HIRING, BUT THE NETWORK THAT THEY HAVE IN ORDER TO HIRE THE PROPER FOLKS, CABINET LEVEL, PRINCIPAL LEVEL. AND DO THEY HAVE CONNECTIONS THAT CAN BRING OTHER FOLKS ON BOARD YOUR TEAM IN PLACENTIA-YORBA, LINDA. SO LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE SEARCH PLAN. WELL, WE'LL START WITH A MEETING WITH THE BOARD. WE'LL MEET WITH YOU. AS WE MENTIONED, WE CAN HAVE HEIDI MEET WITH YOU IF YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. SOMETIMES FOLKS DO NOT WANT TO MEET WITH AN ADMINISTRATOR. THEY WANT TO BE CANDID ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. WE CAN DO THAT. WE CAN DO BOTH. WE ALSO WILL UTILIZE SOME OF YOUR STAFF IF YOU WANT US TO DO THAT AS WELL, TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INPUT AND HELP WITH THE PROCESS. WE WILL HAVE ONE ON ONE MEETINGS, AND THEN ALSO WE'LL HAVE SOME GROUP MEETINGS WITH THE BOARD. WE'LL THEN HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH DISTRICT ADMINISTRATION, FACULTY AND STAFF. AND AS I MENTIONED, ALL STAFF, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU GET CLASSIFIED

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IF WE DON'T GET A STUDENT VOICE, WE'VE MISSED THE ENTIRE PART OF THIS PROCESS. THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT. STUDENTS ARE CANDID. THEY KNOW WHAT THEY WANT. THEY KNOW WHAT THEY WANT IN A LEADER, AND THEY KNOW IF A LEADER CARES ABOUT THEM. AND THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE'RE GOING TO FIND. TRY TO FIND A PROFESSIONAL PERSON FOR YOU THAT ALSO HAS COMPASSION FOR STUDENTS. WITHOUT COMPASSION FOR STUDENTS, THEN IT'S JUST A JOB. BUT WE WANT SOMEBODY THAT BEING A SUPERINTENDENT IS A MISSION BECAUSE THEY CARE ABOUT KIDS. WE'LL MEET WITH PARENTS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND OTHER AGENCIES, AND THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO DO THOSE IN PERSON. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT A TIMELINE. AND WE THREW A TIMELINE IN HERE. WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT SHORTLY. BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE MEET WITH AS MANY GROUPS AS POSSIBLE, AND WE'LL KEEP MEETING WITH THEM UNTIL YOU FEEL LIKE WE'VE EXHAUSTED THAT OPPORTUNITY. AND THAT MIGHT MEAN WE STRETCH THE TIMELINE. AND THEN WE WILL DEVELOP A SUPERINTENDENT CHARACTERISTICS PAMPHLET FOR YOU. YOU'LL LOOK AT THAT AND THEN WE'LL DECIDE IS THERE ANY TWEAKS OR ANYTHING WE NEED, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON FROM THERE. ONCE WE HAVE. THAT DOCUMENT IN PLACE FOR THE CHARACTERISTICS WE'RE LOOKING FOR, THEN WE WILL BEGIN THE ADVERTISING. THERE ARE MANY FIRMS THAT START THE PROCESS EARLY. THEY GET IT IN ED CAL OR ED JOINT. BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR BEFORE WE ADVERTISE, BEFORE WE GO RECRUITING. AS WE MENTIONED, WE HAVE AN EXTENSIVE NETWORK THROUGHOUT THE STATE. OUR 20 MEMBERS GO FROM YREKA TO SAN DIEGO. THEY KNOW FOLKS UP AND DOWN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

AND AS WE SAW IN THE AGENCIES THAT WE BELONG TO, THEY HAVE NETWORKS THERE AS WELL. WE HAVE THE TRIPLE S NETWORK AND OTHER AGENCIES THAT WE'VE SPOKEN TO IN DIFFERENT STATES. BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS, WILL THEY UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMICS OF CALIFORNIA THAT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT FROM OTHER STATES AND HOW WE OPERATE BUDGET TIMELINES, THE DIFFERENT INTERACTIONS THAT WE HAVE WITH STATE LEGISLATURES AND THE SPI. SO WE WANT SOMEBODY WHO UNDERSTANDS ALL THOSE PIECES. YOU MIGHT GET SOMEBODY WHO IS IN CALIFORNIA AT SOME POINT, WENT OUT OF STATE AND WANTS TO COME BACK. AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE OUT-OF-STATE FOLKS THAT THEY ONLY WANT TO BE IN CERTAIN AREAS OF CALIFORNIA. THE BEAUTY OF THIS SEARCH IS PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO LIVE IN PLACENTIA-YORBA, LINDA AND THE SURROUNDING AREA. SO IT'S A DESTINATION DISTRICT. THEY'LL WANT TO COME HERE TO DO THAT. SO WE'LL BE RECRUITING MULTIPLE CANDIDATES AT DIFFERENT TIMES WITH OUR OUR 20 FOLKS. LIKE I MENTIONED, ROB AND I WILL BE HANDLING THE SURVEYS, THE INPUT AND OTHERS. BUT OUR ENTIRE FIRM RECRUITS FOR THE JOBS THAT WE POST. AND WE THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. WE WILL BRING YOU HIGHLY QUALIFIED CANDIDATES AND THE BOARD WILL SEE EVERY APPLICATION. THERE ARE SOME FIRMS THAT SCREEN FOLKS OUT. WE DON'T THINK THAT'S HOW YOU SHOULD DO IT. WE BELIEVE THAT YOU SHOULD SEE EVERY SINGLE CANDIDATE THAT APPLIES EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT QUALIFIED. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THAT AND KNOW THAT'S SOMEBODY WHO APPLIED FOR YOUR DISTRICT. WE'LL THEN PUT THEM IN TIERS FOR YOU, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW MANY YOU WANT TO INTERVIEW AND WHEN. THAT'S PART OF THE INTERVIEW PROCESS. WE'LL SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND HAVE AN INTERVIEW WORKSHOP AND DISCUSS HOW MANY CANDIDATES YOU'D LIKE, HOW MANY STEPS YOU WOULD LIKE IN THAT PROCESS. AND THEN WE WILL HOST THE INTERVIEWS. WE'LL THEN DEBRIEF AND DECIDE. AND SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER FIRM THAT SPOKE TONIGHT, WE WILL HAVE A FINAL CANDIDATE THAT YOU WILL GO AND VISIT THEIR DISTRICT, AND THAT'S WHERE YOU GET TO MEET FOLKS IN THEIR DISTRICT IN SMALL COHORT GROUPS AND SEE IF THEY ARE WHO THEY SAID THEY WERE. IF YOU DO MORE THAN ONE CANDIDATE IN A VISIT, WHAT YOU'VE DONE IS TOLD CANDIDATES THAT THEY WILL BE EXPOSED FOR APPLYING, AND YOU WON'T GET AS MANY CANDIDATES TO APPLY IN CALIFORNIA. IT'S VERY INTERESTING. PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BE AT RISK OF SAYING, I APPLIED AS A SUPERINTENDENT FOR THAT JOB. IF YOU'RE AN ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT, THAT'S FINE. PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE

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BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IF A SUPERINTENDENT WERE TO APPLY FOR A JOB AND THEY WERE YOUR SUPERINTENDENT, YOU'D FEEL LIKE, WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO LEAVE US? IT'S A GREAT DISTRICT, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S CIRCUMSTANCES THAT CREATE THAT TO HAPPEN FROM TIME TO TIME. SO OUR PROCESS WOULD BE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. ALSO, WE SUPPORT AND MENTOR THE SUPERINTENDENT THE FIRST YEAR. IT'S PART OF OUR FEE. WE THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR FIRST YEAR, NOT JUST SUPERINTENDENT MENTORSHIP. BUT IF YOU NEED MENTORSHIP IN CBO, H MO, WE HAVE FOLKS THAT WE WILL BRING IN BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THEIR TEAM IS AN IMPORTANT TEAM TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THAT FIRST YEAR, AND HOW THEY BECOME SUCCESSFUL IN THAT FIRST YEAR IS A 100 DAY PLAN. THEY'LL START THEIR PROCESSES HERE IN PLACENTIA-YORBA. LINDA, FIRST 100 DAYS MEETING CONSTITUENT GROUPS THAT YOU FEEL IS IMPORTANT THAT THEY MEET. THAT MIGHT BE KEY STUDENTS, PRINCIPALS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, FOLKS IN OTHER AGENCIES IN THE COMMUNITY, ROTARY, KIWANIS, SERVICE FIRMS, WHATEVER YOU FEEL IS IMPORTANT. AND THEN THEY WILL BRANCH OUT FROM THERE. AS THEY TALK TO THOSE FOLKS, THEY'LL SAY, WHO ELSE SHOULD I TALK TO THAT KNOWS ABOUT THE DISTRICT? THE DISTRICT THAT VISIBILITY IS VERY IMPORTANT. THEY ALSO NEED TO VISIT ALL THE SCHOOL SITES.

IT'S DIFFICULT TO DO. I USED TO DO IT IN SADDLEBACK 33 SCHOOLS. YOU VISIT THEM TWICE. THAT'S 66 DAYS. HOWEVER, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT STAFFS GET TO SEE A PERSON ON THEIR CAMPUS SEEING WHAT THEIR CAMPUS IS ABOUT, WHAT THEIR COMMUNITY IS ABOUT, WHAT THE LAYOUT OF THE SCHOOL IS, WHAT AREA IT'S FROM, WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD IT COVERS. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT IN THE FIRST 100 DAYS, OUR FOLKS ARE HIGHLY VISIBLE. SO LET'S LOOK AT A PROPOSED TIMELINE. THIS WAS VERY AGGRESSIVE BECAUSE WE WERE NOT SURE IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE SOMEBODY SEATED BY JULY 1ST. I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THAT WE COULD GET IT DONE, BUT I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THAT. I BELIEVE THAT IN ORDER FOR YOU TO MEET WITH COMMUNITY GROUPS AND GET THE FEEDBACK YOU NEED, IT'S GOING TO TAKE ADDITIONAL MONTHS. BESIDES THIS, I REALLY SEE SOMEBODY SEATED IN THIS DISTRICT MORE LIKE OCTOBER 1ST OR NOVEMBER 1ST. IF YOU TRULY WANT TO GATHER THE INFORMATION THAT YOU WANT TO GATHER. PLUS, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GATHER THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE SUPERINTENDENT BEFORE WE ADVERTISE AND RECRUIT. THAT'S GOING TO GIVE US THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE YOU THE APPLICANTS THAT YOU NEED, THAT YOU COULD SCREEN AND THEN DECIDE WHO TO INTERVIEW. SO AS FAR AS TIMELINES GO, THIS IS FLEXIBLE.

MANY BOARDS WOULD LIKE TO JUST BE DONE BY JULY 1ST. DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE UP AGAINST HERE, SO THIS WAS A VERY AGGRESSIVE TIMELINE, BUT WE COULD EXTEND THAT. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING PEOPLE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN. AND ACTUALLY THAT WOULD BE A MUCH MORE TRANSPARENT PROCESS AND GIVE THE COMMUNITY A CHANCE TO GIVE INPUT AND FEEDBACK. SO OUR FEE IS 39,000 AND IT IS THE SEARCH, ALL THE INTERVIEWS AND THEN ALSO THE MENTORSHIP FOR THE FIRST YEAR, AS WE MENTIONED IN THE COACHING FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT AND STAFF WHERE NEEDED. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO DOING THAT FOR YOU. IF WE ARE SELECTED. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M GLAD YOU ADDRESSED THE TIMELINE BECAUSE THAT IS LIKE LIGHTNING. I ALMOST TOTALLY TURNED ME OFF, HONESTLY, SO I'M GLAD YOU ADDRESSED IT. THANK YOU. SURE, SURE, I GOT THE SUMMERS LIKE THE WORST TIME TO TRY AND GET PARENTS INVOLVED. AND I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST CONCERN, OBVIOUSLY, IS THAT WE'RE GOING INTO SUMMER. SO I'M GLAD YOU ADDRESSED IT. THANK YOU. I MEAN, WE WOULD START RIGHT AWAY AND THEN WE'D SEE HOW FAR WE GET. AND THEN ALSO THERE MIGHT BE SOME GROUPS IN THE SUMMER THAT ARE AROUND BOOSTER CLUBS AND OTHERS THAT IT'S A REALLY NICE TIME FOR THEM. THEY MIGHT NOT BE AS ENGAGED IN THEIR ACTIVITY AND OR WORK, AND SO YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET SOME FOLKS THAT WAY, ROLL THAT INTO THE FALL AND THEN FOLLOW THROUGH THERE. THAT'S WHY I'M THINKING, REALLY, OCTOBER 1ST, NOVEMBER 1ST IS PROBABLY A BETTER TIMELINE TO GET THE TYPE OF CANDIDATES THAT YOU WANT TO BE PUT IN FRONT OF YOU, SO YOU COULD INTERVIEW THEM AND PUT

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BECAUSE I DID HAVE A CONCERN. THERE WAS A DOUG KIMBERLY ON THERE WHO WAS TRYING TO BE THE ACT. HE WAS ACTUALLY SITTING IN THE BOARDROOM WHEN THE WHOLE THING CAME DOWN, AND HE WAS TELLING PEOPLE, HE'S GOING TO BE THE ACTING. WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP BEFORE WE EVEN SUBMITTED THIS PROPOSAL, WE UNDERSTOOD THAT WAS A LEVEL OF CONCERN WITH THIS GROUP. AND HE ACTUALLY VOLUNTEERED AND SAID, I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THE ENTIRE PROCESS. ONE, HE WAS IN THIS CITY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, SO HE HAS HIS OWN THOUGHTS OF HOW THE CITY GOES, AS ANY OF US WOULD BE IF WE WERE IN OUR OWN CITY. AND WE GREW UP LIKE I GREW UP IN GLENDORA, FOR INSTANCE. I SPENT MY ENTIRE YEAR THERE. MY TEACHERS WERE PARENTS THERE. I WOULD HAVE MY OWN IDEAS OF WHAT THE SUPERINTENDENT WOULD BE. HOWEVER, THAT'S NOT THE JOB OF THIS FIRM. THE JOB OF THIS FIRM IS TO GATHER THE INPUT OF YOUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND WHAT YOU WANT IN A PERSON. AND SO WE ALREADY HAD THE DISCUSSION THAT HE WON'T BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS AT ALL. I MEAN, HE'LL BE INVOLVED IN OTHER PROCESSES. HE'S BEEN IN INTERIM OTHER PLACES AND DONE VERY WELL. IT'S JUST THIS IS TOO CLOSE TO HOME FOR HIM AND SO HE WON'T BE INVOLVED. OKAY. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR YOUR FIRM'S EXPERIENCE WITH WHAT IS THEIR RETENTION RATE. AND WHEN YOU GET TO THAT FINAL INTERVIEW STAGE, WHAT TYPE OF PRESENTATION OR ACTIVITY DO YOU HAVE THE SUPERINTENDENT DO FOR THE BOARD? WELL, TYPICALLY. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE'VE DONE ABOUT 12 SEARCHES WITH OUR CURRENT CONFIGURATION OF OUR COMPANY. HOWEVER, WE'VE HAD FOLKS THAT HAVE DONE SEARCHES FOR OTHER COMPANIES, SOME SOME EVEN PRESENTING. SO THEY'VE HAD ACCESS TO DOING SEARCHES AS WELL. BUT CURRENTLY ALL OUR SEARCHES, THE SUPERINTENDENTS ARE IN PLACE AND HAPPY TO BE THERE. SO IT'S 100%, BUT 100% OF A DOZEN IS NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, 100% OF 90. BUT THEN AGAIN, I'M NOT 90, SO I HAVEN'T DONE AS MANY. REGARDING ANY KIND OF PRESENTATION, ANY DIRECTION YOU GIVE THE SUPERINTENDENTS, WE WOULD WE WOULD TAILOR THAT WITH THE BOARD. WE HAVE DONE DIFFERENT EXERCISES. ONE OF THE EXERCISES THAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE GIVEN THEM A CRISIS QUESTION. SO THE BOARD'S ALREADY KIND OF DECIDED, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE FINALISTS. AND THEY'D SAY, THIS IS THE CRISIS. I WANT YOU TO WRITE A NEWSLETTER TO THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO TO YOUR STAFF OF HOW YOU'RE GOING TO MANAGE THIS CURRENT CRISIS. NOW, THAT WAS INTERESTING IN THAT WE'D HAVE TO MAKE THOSE UP. BUT WE ALL HAVE HAD CRISIS HERE RECENTLY WITH COVID AND OTHER THINGS. SO FOLKS ARE GETTING A LITTLE BETTER AT THAT THAN MAYBE THEY HAD IN THE PAST. THAT'S ONE OPPORTUNITY WHERE YOU COULD SEE SOMEBODY IN REAL TIME. YOU'D GIVE THEM A TIMELINE FOR THAT. WE FIND THAT TO BE SOMETHING THAT CAN SOMEBODY HANDLE THE PRESSURE AND WORK UNDER THE PRESSURE AND WRITE SOMETHING, BECAUSE YOU WANT SOMEBODY WHO'S A GOOD COMMUNICATOR AS FAR AS IN WRITING AND ALSO VERBALLY AND IN BOTH SETTINGS, YOU MIGHT SAY, GIVE US WHAT YOU WOULD PUT TO THE COMMUNITY. AND IF YOU WERE GOING TO STAND UP IN FRONT OF A ROOM OF PEOPLE AND TELL US HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THIS, HOW

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THAT'S HOW I GOT A LOT OF GRAY HAIR. AND AS YOU MANAGE THOSE OGS, YOU GET BETTER AT THEM OF THINKING ON YOUR FEET AND ALSO UNDERSTANDING WHO YOU'RE REPRESENTING AT THE TIME. EVERY TIME YOU'RE IN FRONT OF A GROUP, IT MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT AUDIENCE. YOU MIGHT BE REPRESENTING THE STUDENTS AT THAT TIME OR THE BUDGET AT THAT TIME, OR THE CURRICULUM AT THE TIME, AND UNDERSTANDING HOW YOU NAVIGATE THAT. WE COULD COME UP WITH A PROCESS THAT WOULD LET YOU SEE THAT PERSON IN REAL TIME. BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE A PRESENTATION ON A CERTAIN TOPIC, LIKE SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE DOING IN THE DISTRICT OR AN INITIATIVE THAT YOU WANT TO WORK ON, WE COULD GIVE THAT TO THEM AHEAD OF TIME, AND THEY COULD DO THAT AS WELL. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. NEXT ONE WOULD BE THE STUDENT. THEN THIS IS A QUICK MIC CHECK. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN HEAR YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, YOUR HONOR. GREAT.

THANK YOU. AND YOU'RE OKAY WITH ME? JUST DOING NEXT SLIDE AS WE GO THROUGH. SURE. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. BOARD. MY NAME IS BEN JOHNSON WITH MCPHERSON AND JACOBSEN. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY.

YES, SIR. YES WE CAN. AND MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT BEING THERE IN PERSON. I DON'T LIVE TOO FAR FROM THE DISTRICT. I ACTUALLY LIVE IN RIVERSIDE. EVEN THOUGH OUR FIRM IS A NATIONAL FIRM BASED IN OMAHA. I'M LIKE YOU, A LONG TERM SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER. I'M WAS A BOARD MEMBER IN A K-12 DISTRICT IN RIVERSIDE FOR 21 YEARS AND THOUGHT I WAS DONE. AND THEN ONE OF OUR FORMER COUNTY BOARD MEMBERS WAS A BOARD MEMBER OF THE COUNTY IN RIVERSIDE AND ASKED ME TO RUN IN HIS PLACE. SO I'VE BEEN ON THAT BOARD FOR TWO YEARS. AND LIKE SOME FIRMS NOW, WE HAVE BOARD MEMBERS AND SUPERINTENDENTS ON OUR FIRM, AND WE'LL BE WORKING THE SEARCH BECAUSE IT JUST PROVIDES YOU A DIFFERENT LENS. THIS WOULD BE THE ONLY SESSION, UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUESTED, THAT WOULD BE VIRTUAL. I'M ACTUALLY JUST UP IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA AND CAN I GET DOWN BACK FOR THE MEETING? CAN WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE? WELL, YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. AND AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE'LL WE'LL KEEP YOUR MOTTO RIGHT.

IT'S PUTTING KIDS FIRST. AND SO VERY SIMILAR TO OUR MOTTO AS AN ORGANIZATION AND BEING A NATIONWIDE SEARCH FIRM. BUT THE CONSULTANTS THAT WOULD BE WORKING YOUR FIRM ARE CALIFORNIA CONSULTANTS. BUT THE UNIQUE THING ABOUT WHAT WE CAN OFFER YOU IS NOT ONLY THE CALIFORNIA PERSPECTIVE, BUT ALSO A NATIONWIDE PERSPECTIVE. AND YES, CALIFORNIA IS DIFFERENT. BUT AS YOU DEVELOP YOUR CRITERIA AND THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, YOU CAN FIND GREAT LEADERS THAT HAVE MEET THAT CRITERIA ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND SO I ALWAYS SUGGEST TO BOARDS AND AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, TO KEEP YOUR FUNNEL OPEN LIKE THIS, AS YOU'RE BRINGING CANDIDATES IN, HAVE AN OPEN MIND ABOUT NOT WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED, BUT WHAT ARE THE OUTCOMES YOU WANT TO ACHIEVE FROM YOUR NEXT LEADER AND BUILDING A CRITERIA BASED ON THOSE OUTCOMES YOU WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN? AND THERE'S A TON OF GREAT THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN YOUR DISTRICT. BUT WHAT DO YOU WANT TO LEVERAGE FROM THAT NEXT LEADER TO CARRY IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL? NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO LIKE YOU, WE BELIEVE EVERY STUDENT IS NOT ONLY DESERVES, BUT WE HAVE TO BE INTENTIONAL TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY STUDENT'S NEEDS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE ARE MET AND THAT HIGH QUALITY EDUCATION IS IMPORTANT. AND SO LEADERSHIP MATTERS. AND IT'S NOT THE BOARD AND THE SUPERINTENDENT, IT'S THE GOVERNANCE TEAM AND HOW THAT GOVERNANCE TEAM WORKS TOGETHER TO DELIVER A GREAT QUALITY EDUCATION. BECAUSE IF THE BOARD IS DOING THEIR ROLE RIGHT AND SETTING VISION AND USING POLICY TO LEVERAGE THOSE OUTCOMES AND THEIR GIVING THE SUPERINTENDENT THE AUTONOMY TO IMPLEMENT THAT VISION, GREAT THINGS HAPPEN IN THE CLASSROOMS AND YOU HAVE A GREAT RESPONSIBILITY, AS YOU KNOW, AND EVERYONE SAYS THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT YOU DO AS A BOARD, BUT IT TRULY IS AND IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. AND IF THOSE THINGS AREN'T DONE,

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AND, AND AGAIN, IT HURTS STUDENTS, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT TAKES YEARS TO HAVE THAT LONG TERM IMPACT THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE AND YOU WANT TO HAVE THOSE KIND OF OUTCOMES. WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO THIS IS OUR SEARCH TEAM. AND YES, I ALWAYS DO WEAR A BOW TIE. SO BUT THAT'S OUR THAT'S OUR TEAM. AND BOTH DOCTOR VITALE AND I ARE BOTH SUPERINTENDENTS VERY SUCCESSFUL SUPERINTENDENTS WITH CALIFORNIA EXPERIENCE. AND I AND I GAVE YOU MY BACKGROUND AS WELL. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE WORD WE LIKE TO USE THE WORD TRANSPARENCY. BUT THAT WORD CAN BE NEBULOUS. IT MEANS DIFFERENT THINGS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. WE ARE TRANSPARENT ABOUT OUR PROCESS. WE'RE TRANSPARENT ABOUT ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY IN A MEANINGFUL WAY. AND YOU KNOW, THE OLD PROCESS OF HAVING A TOWN HALL MEETING WITH EXPECTING 100 PEOPLE TO SHOW UP. I'VE DONE SEARCHES AS SMALL AS 125 ADA, UP TO 70,000 ADA, AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. AND I HEARD SOMEONE MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT PEOPLE IN THE SAME ROOM AND THAT VOICE. AND SO WHEN WE DO EDUCATION PARTNER MEETINGS, WE DO THOSE MEETINGS WITH WITH STAKEHOLDERS WITH LIKE VOICES. AND SO WHEN WE'RE MEETING WITH YOUR TEACHERS, WE'RE MEETING WITH TEACHERS, WE'RE MEETING WITH CLASSIFIED CLASSIFIEDS ONLY IN THAT ROOM. PTA IS IN THAT ROOM, CABINETS IN THE ROOM. SO BECAUSE EACH OF THOSE GROUPS HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS AND THEIR VIEWPOINT AND I USE THE WORD LENS BEFORE, BUT THEIR THEIR VIEWPOINT IS DIFFERENT, THEIR LENS IS DIFFERENT, AND THEIR COMFORT LEVEL IS DIFFERENT. AND SO WHEN WE MEET, WHEN WE'RE MEETING WITH GROUPS, WE DON'T JUST PUT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN A ROOM AND ASK THEM QUESTIONS. WE ENSURE THAT THOSE VOICES ARE VERY SIMILAR. SO THE MESSAGE THAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM THOSE VOICES IS THE SAME. SO THAT OUR PROCESS IS TRANSPARENT. HOW WE GO ABOUT RECRUITING FOR CANDIDATES IS TRANSPARENT, BUT WHO THOSE CANDIDATES ARE IS NOT TRANSPARENT. IT IS CRITICAL TO GET THE MOST. APPLIED CANDIDATES, TO GET THE LARGEST POOL OF CANDIDATES. LIKE ANY ONE OF US, IF WE WERE LOOKING FOR A JOB, WE WOULD NOT WANT OUR BOSSES TO KNOW. AND SOME BOARDS ARE UNDERSTANDING IF THEIR SUPERINTENDENT IS GOING TO GO LOOK FOR A JOB IN A DIFFERENT DISTRICT. MAYBE, BUT THAT CAN GREATLY IMPACT WHO APPLIES FOR ROLES. SO WE KEEP THAT CANDIDATES CONFIDENTIAL THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. EVEN IF YOU GET DOWN TO THE LAST CANDIDATE, SOMETHING COULD HAPPEN UNTIL YOU HAVE A SIGNED CONTRACT. AND SO OUR BELIEF IS THEY'RE THERE UNLESS THEY AGREE TO IT AND THE BOARD AGREES TO IT AND WANTS SOMETHING DIFFERENT, WE THINK THAT PROCESS SHOULD ALWAYS BE CONFIDENTIAL. WE ADVERTISE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES, THAT THAT DOESN'T GET YOU ANYTHING RIGHT. YOU COULD PUT AN AD IN THE NEWSPAPER ON A WE AREY INTENTIONAL AND NOT ONLY POST THINGS WITH OUR WITH OUR DATABASE AND ALL ONLINE SOURCES AND ON YOUR WEBSITE, BUT WE START MAKING PHONE CALLS TO PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW AND CANDIDATES THAT WE KNOW THAT MAY MEET YOUR CRITERIA. AND I AND I WILL SAY THIS IS IMPORTANT, BUT WE DON'T JUST GO TO PEOPLE THAT WE PLAY SOMEWHERE ELSE 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO AND TRY TO GET THEM TO MOVE YOUR DISTRICT, BECAUSE WE WON'T DO THAT TO YOU. AND IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE DISTRICT THAT WE THAT WE PLACE SOMEONE PREVIOUSLY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. I WANT TO SKIP OVER THIS. I WANT TO REALLY GET INTO KIND OF WHAT OUR PROCESS LOOKS LIKE. SO YOU HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A CRITICAL POINT OF TIMELINE, BUT WE'LL STAY HERE FOR A SECOND. AS MENTIONED, WE'VE PLACED OVER A THOUSAND

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WHY WE THINK THIS SECOND GROUP THAT WE WOULD TALK TO, WHICH WE CALL OUR SHORT LIST, IS WHO THE BOARD SHOULD INTERVIEW. IT'S OUR OPINION. IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO RANK CANDIDATES BECAUSE THAT

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BUT WE WILL STILL SHOW YOU EVERYONE THAT'S APPLIED FOR THE JOB, WHY WE DID OR DID NOT BRING THAT PERSON FORWARD SO SOMEONE COULD BE MEET THAT CRITERIA, FOR EXAMPLE, AND BE A SUPERINTENDENT IN TITLE. BUT MAYBE AS A SUPERINTENDENT IN A DISTRICT OF ONLY 200 STUDENTS AND HAS DONE THAT JOB FOR A YEAR, YET TECHNICALLY THEY MEET YOUR CRITERIA. BUT IF THERE'S OTHER CANDIDATES THAT HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE, WE WOULD SAY TO THAT TO YOU PROBABLY BETTER OFF SEEING SOMEONE THAT'S BEEN IN THE DISTRICT OF MAYBE 10,000 STUDENTS THAT'S DONE THAT JOB FOR FOUR YEARS BETTER ALIGNS TO NOT ONLY YOUR QUALIFICATIONS, BUT YOUR CRITERIA. WE BRING THAT SHORTLIST TO THE BOARD. WE HAVE THE BOARD HAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHO THEY WANT TO INTERVIEW. WE SET UP A DAY OR TWO, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF CANDIDATES THAT THE BOARD WANTS TO INTERVIEW. WE ALSO RECOMMEND A WIDE VARIETY OF WAYS TO ENGAGE CANDIDATES. SO BEFORE YOU EVEN DETERMINE WHO YOU WANT TO INTERVIEW, WE TAKE THAT WHAT WE CALL THAT SHORT LIST, AND YOU GET PAPER INFORMATION ON THOSE CANDIDATES. YOU ALSO GET TO SEE THOSE CANDIDATES ANSWERING QUESTIONS ON VIDEO OF A COUPLE OF KEY AREAS. SO YOU CAN NOT ONLY SEE WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE ON PAPER, BUT HOW THEY ENGAGE IN A VIDEO FORMAT. AND THEN WITH THAT SHORTLIST, YOU DETERMINE WHO YOU WANT TO INTERVIEW. AND WE DO A VARIETY OF A VARIETY OF OPTIONS FOR THE BOARD TO SEE WHAT THOSE CANDIDATES ARE LIKE AND, AND WHETHER IT'S REGULAR QUESTIONS, WHETHER IT'S A PRESENTATION, WHETHER IT'S A WRITING SAMPLE. ALL THOSE THINGS COULD BE OPTIONS THAT THE BOARD COULD SAY, WE WANT TO SEE IN THOSE CANDIDATES. AND THEN FROM THAT PLACE, THE BOARD DETERMINES TYPICALLY WHO THEY WANT TO, WHO THEY WANT TO HIRE. AND AS I SAID, WE KEEP THAT PROCESS ALL CONFIDENTIAL. SOME BOARDS WANT TO GO FROM THAT GROUP TO MAYBE THEIR CONFLICTED BETWEEN TWO CANDIDATES. WE WOULD GO TO THAT NEXT LEVEL. AND THEN THE LAST PIECE THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY IS WITHIN 60 DAYS OF HIRING THE SUPERINTENDENT, WE DO A GOAL SETTING WORKSHOP WITH THE BOARD TO ENSURE THERE IS ALIGNMENT ON WHAT THAT GOAL VISION, ALL THOSE BIG PIECES ARE FOR THE BOARD AND FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT. AND LET ME CORRECT MYSELF FOR THE GOVERNANCE TEAM. AND THAT IS CRITICAL BECAUSE IF THERE'S MISALIGNMENT AND MISUNDERSTANDING, THEN YOU'RE STARTING OFF ON THE WRONG FOOT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. NEXT WE'LL GO OVER THAT ONE BECAUSE I THINK I COVERED THAT ONE MORE. I JUST WANT TO GET TO THE TOTAL FEE. SO THE TOTAL FEE FOR EVERYTHING IS 29.5 INCLUDING THE SESSION WITH THE BOARD AND GOAL SETTING. LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, WE HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO AS FAR AS MENTORING AND SUPPORT, BUT THOSE ARE ADDITIONAL. BUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS I MENTIONED ARE INCLUDED IN THE PRICE. WE ALSO ARE SO CONFIDENT IN OUR PRICE THAT WE OFFER A TWO YEAR GUARANTEE FOR, IF ANY REASON, EVEN AT ONE YEAR AND 363 DAYS, THE SUPERINTENDENT DECIDES TO LEAVE. WE COME BACK AND DO THE SEARCH FOR THE BOARD AND FOR THE COMMUNITY AT NO COST EXCEPT TRAVEL AND EXPENSES. AND I WILL STOP NOW AND LEAVE IT.

THE LAST THING I WILL SAY, WE WILL MATCH ANYBODY'S PRICE IF THEY HAVE A SIMILAR, SIMILAR SEARCH PROCESS TO US, AND I WILL OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS FOR THE BOARD. HI, THIS IS TODD. I JUST WANTED TO HIT ON THE TWO YEAR GUARANTEE YOU JUST MENTIONED AND PRICE MATCH. FIRST OF ALL I REALLY LIKE THOSE PIECES. THAT'S NICE. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU HAD TO UTILIZE A TWO YEAR GUARANTEE PERSONALLY? NEVER GOT IT. AND YOU SAID YOU'RE AT 98% RETENTION WITH YOUR SUPERINTENDENT'S. CORRECT? I'M HAPPY ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I'M HAPPY ABOUT THAT. BECAUSE IT MEANS WHAT? HOW WE DO WHAT WE DO WORKS. ABSOLUTELY. IF YOU WOULD HAVE SAID TEN IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, MY QUESTIONS WOULD BE DONE. EXACTLY. NEXT QUESTION. BEING BASED OUT OF OMAHA, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE YOU'RE THE FIRM IS RIGHT. YES. SO DO YOU HAVE YOU SENSED OR FOUND THAT THERE IS. A LOT OF APPREHENSION ABOUT PEOPLE COMING INTO THE STATE IN GENERAL IN

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ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU BEN. TRAVEL SAFE HOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU CHRISTINA. NICE SEEING YOU SIR. THANK YOU.

OKAY. NOW WE'RE WITH THE GROUP. THIS IS FORWARD. OKAY. THOSE TWO ARE FORWARDS OR BACKWARDS. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ARE WE GOOD? ALL RIGHT. FANTASTIC. GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT ANDERSON. BOARD OF TRUSTEES, DOCTOR SERINO AND CABINET. IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT TO YOU OUR PROPOSAL FROM THE COSCO GROUP FOR WHAT WILL BE THE. THE

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BUT ULTIMATELY, THE DECISION FOR YOUR NEXT SUPERINTENDENT SITS WITH THE FIVE OF YOU.

COMMITMENT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE BELIEVE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN OUR OUR FRIENDS AND OUR OTHER FIRMS IS THAT WE ARE SOLELY COMMITTED TO PLACENTIA-YORBA LINDA SCHOOL DISTRICT, UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT DURING THE SEARCH. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT OUR OUR PARTNERS ONLY CONDUCT ONE SEARCH AT A TIME. SO AS AN EXAMPLE, I JUST COMPLETED A SEARCH ON SATURDAY, HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY COME AVAILABLE PRIOR TO THAT, I WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A PARTNER THAT WAS ELIGIBLE TO CONDUCT TO BE PART OF THE SEARCH, BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE BEEN WORKING STRICTLY WITH ANOTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO KIRK AND I WOULD BE WORKING WITH YOU COMPLETELY. WE HAVE A BENCH OF 26 PARTNERS THAT ARE CONDUCTING OTHER SEARCHES, BUT WE ARE ONLY WORKING ON ONE SEARCH AT A TIME AND THEN GUIDANCE AGAIN. AS I SAID, ULTIMATELY, THIS IS YOUR SEARCH.

WE ARE HERE TO FACILITATE. WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT. WE ARE HERE TO SUPPORT NOT ONLY THE BOARD, BUT YOUR CABINET, YOUR YOUR COMMUNITY. AS YOU GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS IN ANY WAY THAT WE CAN. AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THE SLIDES. SO IN SEARCHING AND LOOKING AT YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHICH I AM A PROUD RESIDENT OF YORBA LINDA, SO I DIDN'T HAVE TO MY CHILDREN DID NOT ATTEND THE SCHOOL. THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE OLD. I'M JUST GOING TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. BUT. WELL THANK YOU. THAT'S SO KIND. SO I JUST IN LOOKING AT THE DISTRICT FROM A DIFFERENT LENS RATHER THAN JUST A RESIDENT OF THE CITY, BUT AS A PROSPECTIVE PARTNER WITH YOU AND ALSO LEARNING ABOUT THE SCHOOLS MORE DEEPLY, IT IS VERY EVIDENT NOT ONLY IN YOUR VERBIAGE THAT YOU USE, BUT IN THE THINGS THAT THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE CHILDREN ARE AFFORDED IS THAT CHILDREN ARE PUT FIRST HERE. PUTTING KIDS FIRST IS VERY CLEAR. YOU JUST HAD THREE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS HAVE BECOME DISTINGUISHED SCHOOLS IN 2025. HOWEVER, THAT WASN'T THEIR FIRST CRACK AT THE BAT FOR DISTINGUISHED SCHOOLS. ONE OF THE SCHOOLS WAS THAT WAS THEIR FOURTH ACCOLADE, THREE ACCOLADES, TWO ACCOLADES. THERE'S I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU HOW FANTASTIC YOUR SCHOOLS ARE. THERE'S A FOCUS ON LITERACY, STEM AND AVID FOCUS. YOU JUST HAD A BIG ACCOLADE WITH THE CRAFTSMAN'S AWARD, SOME MOCK TRIAL AWARDS, AND THEN OF COURSE, YOUR ARTIST OF THE YEAR. AND WHY DO I BRING THIS UP? THIS IS REALLY RELEVANT IN THE SEARCH. YOU WILL BE LOOKING FOR A SUPERINTENDENT WHO IS WELL-ROUNDED, WHO'S HAD LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY, WHO HAS HAD EXPERIENCES IN ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY OF PLACENTIA-YORBA LINDA HAS DEEMED IMPORTANT, AND THE TYPES OF OFFERINGS THAT YOU WANT TO THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE TO YOUR CHILDREN. AND WHILE NO SUPERINTENDENT WILL BE AN EXPERT IN ALL OF THESE THINGS, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR CURRENT CABINET, WHAT YOUR COMMUNITY ARE EXPERTS IN AND WHAT THEY THEY, THEY CONSIDER AS NON-NEGOTIABLE.

AS YOU MOVE FORWARD IN THE SUPERINTENDENCY AND SEARCHING FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT. AS I SAID, MY NAME IS DEBORAH FRENCH. I AM A RETIRED SUPERINTENDENT, JUST TWO YEARS OUT OF THE SUPERINTENDENCY. I DO THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS ONE OF OUR OUR PARTNER, ONE OF OUR FRIENDS TONIGHT TALKED ABOUT RELEVANCY. THAT'S SOMETHING I FEEL THAT I CAN REALLY BRING TO THE TABLE.

I'M JUST TWO YEARS OUT OF THE SEAT. I REMEMBER IT WELL. I WAS A PRE COVID, A COVID AND A POST-COVID SUPERINTENDENT. AND WHILE I REALLY DON'T LIKE TO USE THE WORD COVID, IT IS RELEVANT IN THIS WORK BECAUSE A PRE-COVID SUPERINTENDENT AND A POST-COVID SUPERINTENDENT ARE VERY IT'S A IT'S A JUST A DIFFERENT JOB. I CURRENTLY SERVE IN MULTIPLE CAPACITIES. I DO SOME IN-HOUSE COACHING IN A LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT WHERE I WORK WITH THEIR CABINET MEMBERS IN THEIR SPECIFIC AREA, WHETHER THAT BE IN HUMAN RESOURCES OR ED SERVICES. I PROVIDE LIMITED SUPPORT TO THE SUPERINTENDENT BECAUSE SHE'S AMAZING AND SHE DOESN'T NEED ME. AND I ALSO I ALSO CONSULT OUTSIDE OF THAT WITH SOME CONTRACTORS WHO DO SOME OTHER WORK. AND THEN PERHAPS MY FAVORITE WORK THAT I DO, ADMITTEDLY, IS A GROUP THAT I CONSULT WITH THAT WORKS WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE DEMENTIA AND ALZHEIMER'S. THAT'S A REAL PASSION OF MINE. AND SO I GET TO DO SOME OF THAT WORK AS WELL. I WAS A REGIONAL SUPERINTENDENT OF THE YEAR DURING MY TIME IN LA, AND I SERVED AS A PRINCIPAL BOTH AT THE ELEMENTARY AND SECONDARY LEVELS AND IN THE

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ALSO, WE HAVE FULL DISCLOSURE. YOU'LL BE WITH US EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. CONTINUOUS COMMUNICATION WITH THE BOARD. THIS IS YOUR PROCESS. YOU ARE IN CHARGE. WE WORK FOR YOU. THEY'LL BE CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH THE PRESIDENT AND WITH THE BOARD. THERE'LL BE AN OPEN CANDIDATE POOL. WE'LL CAST A WIDE NET, NOT JUST RECIRCULATE CANDIDATES FROM PRIOR SEARCHES.

ALTHOUGH IF WE DO HAVE CANDIDATES FROM PRIOR SEARCHES THAT WE FEEL WOULD BE GOOD FITS, WE'LL CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE THEM TO APPLY FOR THIS POSITION. ALSO, THERE'LL BE FULL APPLICANT DISCLOSURE TO THE BOARD. WE'LL GIVE YOU A FULL REPORT ON EVERY CANDIDATE AND OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, NOT JUST THE TOP 4 OR 5 CANDIDATES. SO LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PHASES AND REALLY THE PHASES THAT YOU'VE HEARD TONIGHT. OURS ARE NOT VERY DIFFERENT, BUT WHERE WE DO HAVE SOME UNIQUENESS I WILL ELABORATE ON THOSE. SO OUR FIRST PHASE. OH, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE TIMELINE IS INCORPORATED IN HERE. HOWEVER IT'S I TOOK A SHOT AT TWO OPTIONS, BUT CERTAINLY THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE BOARD HOLISTICALLY TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT. SO WE DO HAVE A CUSTOMIZED PROCESS, DETAIL AND TIMELINE. WE WORK WITH THE BOARD ON AN INITIAL NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT WE CONSIDER TO BE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT MEETINGS OF THE ENTIRE PROCESS. WE WOULD MEET WITH YOU AND DETERMINE WE ASK THREE QUESTIONS. WE THEN TAILOR THAT WE GO OUT AND WORK WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS. BASED UPON WHAT THE BOARD HAS SET. WE COMPLETE OUR STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS AND OUR ONLINE SURVEY. WE PREFER TO DO OUR STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS IN PERSON DEPENDING UPON THE TIMELINE. WE DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE WITH WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE SAME ROOM. I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE SEARCH I REFERRED TO JUST A MINUTE AGO, IT WAS A VERY CONDENSED TIMELINE. WE EARNED THE SEARCH ON IN EARLY MARCH AND WE CONCLUDED IT SATURDAY. SO YOU CAN SEE THEY WERE A VERY AGGRESSIVE BOARD AND I LIKED YOUR RESPONSE. AND THEY HAD A VERY SUCCINCT TIMELINE. WE WERE VERY CANDID ABOUT THAT. THAT WOULD BE DIFFICULT IN GATHERING A ROBUST AMOUNT OF INFORMATION. BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU, WE DID IT. WE MET WITH 17 STAKEHOLDER GROUPS, ALL OF WHICH WERE IDENTIFIED BY THE BOARD. WE DID ALL OF THEM WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE IN PERSON. AND THAT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS THE PLEASURE OF THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP. IT WAS A PARENT STAKEHOLDER GROUP FOR THEIR SPECIAL NEEDS FAMILIES, AND THEY PREFERRED EVENING ON ZOOM, SO WE CAN RUN THAT ANY WAY THE BOARD SEES FIT. WE WOULD DO THEM IN PERSON. WE CAN DO THEM IN A HYBRID WAY OR WE CAN DO THEM ON ZOOM. BUT AGAIN, I WILL

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OUR FIRM HAS. AS I SAID, WE HAVE 26 PARTNERS. WE WORK UP AND DOWN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AS WE HAVE PARTNER IN WE HAVE PARTNERS IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE STATE AND PARTNERS HERE IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE STATE, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY RECRUIT NATIONALLY. THE LAST SEARCH I JUST CONCLUDED, WE DID HAVE THREE APPLICANTS WHO WERE FROM OUTSIDE OF THE STATE, BUT WE PRIMARILY ARE FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, AND WE PUBLICIZE JUST ABOUT ANYWHERE, DEPENDING UPON THE BOARD'S PLEASURE. AND WE HANDLE ALL APPLICANT COMMUNICATION. SO WE DON'T RELY ON YOUR EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE SUPERINTENDENT OTHER THAN POTENTIALLY HELPING US WITH SETTING UP STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS BECAUSE THEY MAY KNOW THE BEST LOCATION, THAT TYPE OF THING. WE ALSO, ALTHOUGH WE DO HAVE AN ASSOCIATE IN THE PARTNERSHIP, THAT THAT HELPS US WITH SOME TECHNICAL THINGS. WE HANDLE EVERYTHING PERSONALLY. SO IF I'M SPEAKING WITH THE BOARD PRESIDENT, I'M SPEAKING WITH THE BOARD PRESIDENT, OR I'M SPEAKING WITH THE BOARD INDIVIDUALLY. SO WE DO ALL OF THAT AS THE AS THE LEADS ON THE ON THE SEARCH. PHASE THREE, WE LOOK AT ALL OF THE APPLICANTS. WE HAVE AN OPEN PROCESS. SO LET ME JUST GIVE AN EXAMPLE. THE LAST SEARCH THAT I DID, WE HAD 27 APPLICANTS. WE DO PRESENT THEM TO YOU AS RECOMMENDED FOR CONSIDERATION AND NOT RECOMMENDED THOSE THAT WE THAT WE TELL YOU THAT WE SUGGEST ARE NOT RECOMMENDED.

IT'S BECAUSE IT'S WHAT CAME OUT OF A SEARCH OR SEARCH. OUR SEARCHES ARE VERY IN-DEPTH.

OFTENTIMES, I DON'T SPEAK TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTED AS REFERENCES. WE SPEAK TO PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT LISTED AS REFERENCES. AND AS YOU KNOW, EDUCATION IS A VERY SMALL WORLD.

WE KNOW PEOPLE WHO KNOW PEOPLE WHO KNOW PEOPLE, AND SO DO YOU. AND SO THAT'S HOW WE REFERENCE THAT WE I PERSONALLY DO DEEP GOOGLE SEARCHES. I ASK FOR ACCESS TO THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA SO THAT I CAN MAKE SURE THAT THESE CANDIDATES REPRESENT YOUR DISTRICT WELL. AND THEN, OF COURSE, IF THERE ARE ANY FLAGS THAT COME UP, WE RESEARCH THOSE FLAGS. SO THOSE THAT'S HOW WE PRESENT THEM TO THE BOARD. WE GIVE YOU ACCESS TO ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS. AND IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO INTERVIEW ONE THAT WE DON'T RECOMMEND, WE CERTAINLY WOULD INTERVIEW THAT PERSON.

ULTIMATELY THAT'S YOUR DECISION. WE CONTINUE TO FACILITATE THAT WORK AND COMMUNICATE EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. THE LAST SEARCH I PROVIDED A WEEKLY UPDATE, IF THAT WAS THE BOARD'S PLEASURE TO KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN OUR STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS AND WHO WE WERE MEETING WITH. PHASE FOUR IS THE INTERVIEW AND WE WILL DEVELOP INTERVIEW QUESTIONS WITH THE BOARD. WE HAVE A LARGE BANK OF QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN USE AS A STARTING POINT. IT'S ALWAYS EASIER TO EDIT THAN IT IS AUTHOR, BUT WE WILL DECIDE ON THOSE QUESTIONS THAT WE FEEL AS A GROUP WILL GIVE US THE BEST INFORMATION TO SELECT THE BEST CANDIDATE. WE'LL SCHEDULE AND COORDINATE INTERVIEWS. WE'LL BE INVOLVED IN INTERVIEWS IF YOU WANT US TO, AND NOT IF YOU DON'T WANT US TO BE. AND ALSO PREPARE ALL THE MATERIALS FOR THE INTERVIEWS AS WELL. WE'LL PRESENT A COMPENSATION STUDY TO THE BOARD LOOKING AT SIMILAR DISTRICTS TO PUT TOGETHER A COMPETITIVE SALARY TO ATTRACT THE BEST CANDIDATES. WE'LL ASSIST THE BOARD IN SELECTION OF A FINALIST AND AGAIN, GIVE AS MUCH OR AS LITTLE INPUT AS YOU WANT FROM US. AND FINALLY, PROVIDE AN IN-DEPTH BACKGROUND REVIEW. AGAIN, AS DEBORAH SAID, WE HAVE 26 PARTNERS WHO HAVE CONNECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE

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AGAIN, WE HAVE MANY SUPERINTENDENTS IN OUR GROUP THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS, AND WE'VE DONE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WITH DISTRICTS AS WELL. SO WE HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH OUR PARTNERS IN THAT AREA AND THEN FINALLY ASSIST IN THE FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT AND ARRANGEMENTS OF THE SUPERINTENDENT. SO IN THE POST SEARCH WORK, WE HAVE A GUARANTEE OF TWO YEARS. SO IF FOR SOME REASON YOUR SUPERINTENDENT MADE A DECISION TO LEAVE PLACENTIA-YORBA. LINDA, BEFORE THOSE TWO YEARS WERE OVER, WE WILL CONDUCT YOUR SEARCH AGAIN AT NO COST. WE ALSO PROVIDE TWO YEARS OF COACHING THAT'S INCLUSIVE OF OUR FEE AND THAT COACHING IS FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT. WE CAN RUN BOARD GOVERNANCE WORKSHOPS. WE CAN WORK WITH CABINET MEMBERS. AGAIN. WE DO HAVE FOLKS WITHIN OUR FIRM WHO ARE EXPERTS IN ALL AREAS. AND SO WHILE WE WOULD PRIMARILY ONE OF US WOULD PRIMARILY TAKE THAT LEAD, IF YOU WANTED SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIED, WE'D BE ABLE TO GO TO OUR OUR PARTNERS TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IN IN THOSE TWO YEARS. I REALLY DO THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. I WILL I WILL SAY THIS COMING FROM THE SUPERINTENDENCY, WHETHER YOU'RE A FIRST YEAR SUPERINTENDENT OR A 10TH YEAR SUPERINTENDENT, NO ONE IS ABOVE COACHING AND ACCESS TO PEOPLE AND THEIR AND THEIR EXPERIENCE.

AND SO WE REALLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT. THIS PLACENTIA-YORBA LINDA IS NOT ONLY A DESTINATION, THEY'RE NOT ONLY DESTINATION CITIES. THIS IS A DESTINATION DISTRICT. I BELIEVE THAT YOU WILL RECRUIT SITTING SUPERINTENDENTS. AND SO REALLY THE MENTORSHIP AND THE GUIDANCE IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE SUPERINTENDENCY. IT'S ABOUT ASSISTING IN THE BUILDING OF RELATIONSHIPS, WORKING WITH THE BOARD, ALL THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT FOR THE SUCCESS OF A SUPERINTENDENT. ON OUR INTERVIEWS, PLEASE NOTE THAT WE CERTAINLY WILL WORK WITH THE BOARD. WE CAN DO A WRITING TASK. WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT SUPERINTENDENTS, AS AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER THIS EVENING, A LOT OF OUR WORK IS SPONTANEOUS. IT'S RIGHT. THEN YOU NEED TO BE ON YOUR FEET. SO A WRITING TASK WITHOUT THE CANDIDATE KNOWING BEFORE THEY GET THERE CAN BE AN IMPORTANT WAY TO SEE HOW THEY PRIORITIZE, HOW THEY HANDLE A CRISIS, HOW THEY WOULD INTRODUCE THEMSELVES. AND THEN WE ALSO WORK WITH THE BOARD TO MAKE A DETERMINATION IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO AN ACTIVITY. IF WE DO AN ACTIVITY, OFTENTIMES IT'S SOMETHING LIKE BRING IN 100 DAY PLAN AND PRESENT THAT TO THE BOARD. AND WE HAVEN'T I HAVEN'T PERSONALLY IN THE PAST DONE ANYTHING WHERE WE HAVE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS IN, IN THE INTERVIEWS ONLY BECAUSE OF THE CONFIDENTIALITY. AS A SUPERINTENDENT WHO LEFT ONE SUPERINTENDENCY ON REALLY GOOD, HAPPY TERMS BUT WANTED TO EXPLORE A DIFFERENT PART OF THE STATE, I WOULDN'T HAVE WANTED MY SITTING BOARD TO KNOW THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR ANOTHER JOB AGAIN. PROBABLY A LITTLE DIFFERENT FOR AN ASSISTANT SUPE OR A DIRECTOR, BUT SO THAT IS OUR PROCESS FOR THAT. WE WORK DIRECTLY WITH YOU.

SO LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TIMELINE. AGAIN. THIS IS OPTION ONE. IT'S COMPLETELY A AN OPTION AND JUST A PROPOSAL. AND REALLY IT'S JUST BASED ON I LOOKED AT YOUR BOARD MEETING DATES AND THOUGHT I CAN'T IMAGINE THEY WANT A SUPERINTENDENT BY JULY 1ST, BUT MAYBE YOU DID. AND SO WE COULD CERTAINLY SPEED THIS UP. I THOUGHT MAYBE AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER OR MAYBE EVEN A LITTLE LATER. SO THIS CAN BE EXTENDED. I WOULD SAY THAT EVERY PHASE IS EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT IN ITS OWN. I CAN'T SAY THAT ONE PHASE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE OTHER, BECAUSE THEY EACH HAVE THEIR OWN VARIABLES AND THEY EACH KEEP US VERY, VERY BUSY AND THEY KEEP THE BOARD VERY BUSY. RECRUITMENT. ALTHOUGH WE WOULDN'T PUBLICIZE THE RECRUITMENT BEFORE WE KNOW YOUR INPUT, WE ARE CONSTANTLY CONTACTING. I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW I HAVE THE BENEFIT OF COMING OFF OF A SEARCH WHERE FOR REALLY, REALLY HIGHLY QUALIFIED, FANTASTIC, AMAZING CANDIDATES DID NOT GET THE POSITION, BUT THEY WERE QUALIFIED. JUST SO HAPPENED THAT THE PERSON WHO DID HAD HAD THE EDGE. SO BEING ABLE TO TAP INTO

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AND THEN OPTION TWO TAKES YOU TO SEPTEMBER 9TH. BUT AS I SAID THIS CAN BE EXPEDITED AND IT CAN BE EXTENDED BASED ON YOUR DESIRES AS FAR AS WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING TO HAVE YOUR NEXT SUPERINTENDENT IN PLACE. WE CONSIDER OURSELVES TO BE PRETTY COST EFFECTIVE, WITH A GRAND TOTAL THAT YOU SAW IN THE PROPOSAL OF JUST A LITTLE OVER $27,000. WE HAVE AN ALL INCLUSIVE FEE, SO THAT FEE IS EVERYTHING THAT INCLUDES THE PUBLICATIONS. THAT INCLUDES THE TWO YEAR GUARANTEE. THAT INCLUDES OUR MENTORSHIP OF YOUR SUPERINTENDENT, THE COMPENSATION STUDY, THE GOVERNANCE WORKSHOP. THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL FEES, YOU HAVE UNLIMITED CONSULTANT TIME. AND THAT PERTAINS TO THE BOARD AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND OF COURSE, THE SUPERINTENDENT WANTS THE SUPERINTENDENT IS HIRED, UNLIMITED MEETINGS WITH THE BOARD AND STAKEHOLDERS. CLEARLY, WE TRY TO BE EFFICIENT IN OUR TIME AND BEING ABLE TO MEET. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE'RE MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE STAKEHOLDERS. AND WHEN THEY'D LIKE TO MEET, WE'D LIKE TO MEET WITH STUDENTS. AND SO OBVIOUSLY WE DO THAT DURING THE DAY AT SCHOOL SITES.

AND THEN I'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IN THE COMMITMENT AREA, OUR SEARCH IS OUR SOLE CONSULTANT. WE ARE YOUR OWN. WE ARE WORKING ONLY DIRECTLY WITH YOU DURING THIS SEARCH TIME. WE DO NOT TAKE ON ANOTHER SEARCH. AND I TALKED ABOUT OUR TWO YEAR GUARANTEE AND OUR FREE SEARCH.

IF THE CANDIDATE IS DOESN'T PASS THAT TWO YEAR MARK. THE OTHER THING THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT IS WE DON'T POACH OUR SUPERINTENDENTS. WE IF WE PLACE SOMEBODY HERE AND WE SEE A SEARCH THAT'S JUST LIKE, OH MY GOSH, THEY'RE AN IDEAL CANDIDATE. WE DON'T COME BACK TO THEM AND SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT A BETTER OPTION FOR YOU ACROSS TOWN. SO WE, WE ONCE WE PLACE A SUPERINTENDENT, WE IT'S IF ALL HANDS OFF. WE TALKED ABOUT THE ALL INCLUSIVE FEE. I DON'T NEED TO GO OVER THAT. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS WE CAN CERTAINLY HANDLE THAT IN THE QUESTION TIME. THAT INCLUDES OUR ONLINE SURVEY AS WELL. AND WE TALKED ABOUT ALL OF THESE COMPONENTS OF OUR SEARCH. WE HAVE SOME GUARANTEES. WE THE BOARD MAKES EVERY DECISION. AGAIN, BACK TO THE VERY BEGINNING. WE ARE YOUR PARTNERS IN THIS. WE'RE HERE TO GUIDE AND SUPPORT. BUT ULTIMATELY THE DECISION ON EVERY STEP OF THE WAY BELONGS WITH THE FIVE OF YOU. WE HAVE FULL DISCLOSURE OF ALL APPLICANTS THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT, EVEN THOSE THAT MAYBE HAD BAD REFERENCING, THAT WE AREN'T RECOMMENDING YOU DETERMINE THE INTERVIEWS WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT. WE DO HAVE INTERVIEW QUESTIONS. WE HAVE VERY DEEP BANK OF QUESTIONS. BUT ULTIMATELY WE WOULD WORK WITH YOU ON THAT. YOU MAKE THE FINAL DECISION. AND THE OTHER ITEMS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, AND WE UNDERSTAND THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS WORK. WE UNDERSTAND THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS DECISION, AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO YOU AND TO YOU ONLY DURING THIS TIME. AND WE'RE HONORED TO WE WOULD BE HONORED TO WORK WITH YOUR WITH YOUR DISTRICT. AND THAT'S IT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR US? IN TOTAL, HOW MANY SEARCHES HAVE YOU DONE? I KNOW YOU'RE RECENTLY RETIRED, BUT HOW MANY SEARCHES HAVE YOU DONE? I'VE ONLY DONE TWO. OKAY, I SPEND I SPEND A MAJORITY OF MY TIME DOING COACHING AND I HONESTLY, AFTER LEAVING THE SUPERINTENDENCY, I DIDN'T THINK THIS WOULD BE WORK THAT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN. BUT I'VE COME TO REALLY, I SURPRISED MYSELF. IT'S REALLY. IT'S REALLY GOOD WORK. NOTHING BETTER THAN WATCHING A SUPERINTENDENT AND A BOARD COME TOGETHER. AND THEN ONE MORE QUESTION. SORRY. AND HOW LONG HAS THE GROUP BEEN TOGETHER AS A WHOLE? WELL, A LITTLE STORY. FRANK COSTA, WHO HAS PASSED AWAY, UNFORTUNATELY, HE STARTED THE GROUP ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, I BELIEVE HE WAS WHEN I WAS A TEACHER. HE WAS MY VERY FIRST SUPERINTENDENT WHEN I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT A SUPERINTENDENT WAS. SO FRANK HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.

IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OVER 20 YEARS, I BELIEVE. YES. YES. OF COURSE. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YOU ANSWERED ALL MINE. SO I'M GOOD. I HAD THE BENEFIT OF BEING LAST, SO I TRIED TO PUT SOME OF THOSE IN THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ASKED. SO IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE. THANK YOU FOR ASKING US TO BE HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

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EMPLOYMENT PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE. 549575.3. CONFERENCE WITH LABOR NEGOTIATION NEGOTIATORS. DOCTOR ALAN SERINO, ACTING SUPERINTENDENT JOAN VELASCO, INTERIM ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT. ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES. YOLANDA MENDOZA, ACTING ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT, HUMAN RESOURCES WITH CSEA, APL AND PLM 5.4 CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL. EXISTING LITIGATION PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 54956.9.

SECTION D, NUMBER ONE. MAGNOLIA SCIENCE ACADEMY, ORANGE COUNTY VERSUS PLACENTIA-YORBA LINDA UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT, CASE NUMBER 652560 AND ALSO 5.5 CLAIMS SPECIAL EDUCATION SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT FOR STUDENTS IDENTIFICATION NUMBER 17554 85,000 AND A GENERAL LIABILITY CLAIM NUMBER 652915. ARE THERE ANY BLUE CARDS? ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT? ON?

[4. CLOSED SESSION PUBLIC COMMENTS]

I GUESS FOR US, OUR THOUGHT WAS THAT THIS WOULD BE LEADING INTO APPROPRIATE BEHAVIORS FROM BOARD MEMBERS AND HONESTY AND NOT STOPPING THE MISINFORMATION. AS YOU GO BACK AND TALK ABOUT THIS STUFF. SPECIFICALLY, THIS WOULD SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS CLOSED SESSION ITEMS, BUT YOU CERTAINLY ARE WELCOME DURING THE OPEN SESSION TO SHARE ITEMS ON OR NOT ON THE AGENDA. THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THIS WILL ALL COME TOGETHER. THIS RELATES TO THINGS THAT WE WANT DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION. SO IS IT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT? THEY ARE IMPLICITLY ALWAYS ON THE AGENDA. OH THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA. EXCUSE ME. THAT'S IMPLICIT. IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA. EXACTLY. SO WARD BEHAVIOR WARD BEHAVIOR AND CONSEQUENCES FOR THEIR ACTIONS IS ALWAYS APPROPRIATE TO DISCUSS

[01:50:01]

PAM ARE YOU. WE DO HAVE ONE CARD THAT IS SPEAKING TO AN ITEM ON THE CLOSED SESSION. PAM. NO LAST NAME. I SAW A CHART THAT SHOWED THAT THE DISTRICT WANTED TO FIRE A GREAT NUMBER OF TEACHERS, AND A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF OTHER EXECUTIVE OR OTHER STAFF, SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I THINK THAT'S WRONG. I THINK GOOD TEACHERS HIDE A LOT OF THE DYSFUNCTION THAT HAPPENS IN THESE TWO BUILDINGS WITHIN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. YOU MAKE A LOT OF DECISIONS. THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS THE BEST DECISIONS. YOU PAY AND REQUIRE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT THAT ISN'T ALWAYS HELPFUL OR NEEDED. SO I THINK WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR BUDGET, TRY TO KEEP AS MANY TEACHERS AS POSSIBLE. THAT'S WHAT MAKES THE DISTRICT RUN. WHEN PARENTS GO TO PRIVATE SCHOOLS, WHAT'S THE ONE THING THEY ALWAYS BRAG ABOUT? THE SMALLER CLASS SIZE? WE HAVE A HUGE CLASS SIZES IN PUBLIC SCHOOL. THAT IS ONE THING THAT I THINK THE CTA HAS REALLY FAILED ALL OF US ON. IN 2009, THEY MADE A DEAL WITH THE GOVERNMENT THAT CLASS SIZES WILL GO UP. THEY GOT A SALARY INCREASE AND THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING SINCE THEN. WE'VE HAD BUDGET SURPLUSES AND THE CTA HAS NOT GONE BACK TO THE GOVERNMENT AND SAID, OUR TEACHERS AND OUR STUDENTS ARE STRUGGLING. WE NEED SMALLER CLASS SIZES. SO I THINK YOU'RE JUST PLAYING AT THE MARGINS. IF YOU DON'T KEEP GOOD TEACHERS, THAT'S WHAT KEEPS PARENTS AND THEIR STUDENTS HERE IN THE DISTRICT. OKAY, I'LL MOVE ON TO THE SECOND ONE. DO I GET MORE TIME? THREE MINUTES EACH. OKAY, SO THE SEARCH FIRM. I WASN'T HERE FOR ALL OF IT. I HAD NO IDEA IT WAS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. OTHERWISE I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE COME EARLIER. BUT JUST MAKE SURE YOU CHOOSE SOMEONE THAT'S INDEPENDENT, IS NOT AFFILIATED AND FINANCIALLY AFFILIATED WITH ANY OF THE LAW FIRMS. WE'VE HAD ISSUES IN THE PAST WHERE YOU SEEM TO HIRE SUPERINTENDENTS AND OTHER STAFF, AND THEN YOU CAN BRAG ABOUT HOW IT'S CHEAPER BECAUSE THE LAW FIRM GAVE YOU A DEAL ON THE SEARCH FIRM BECAUSE YOU'RE PAYING THEM FOR LEGAL SERVICES. CAN YOU JUST MAKE SURE YOU USE A SEARCH FIRM THAT IS INDEPENDENT, AND IT'S GOING TO HIRE A SUPERINTENDENT THAT IS LOYAL TO THE STUDENTS AND NOT TO THE SEARCH FIRM THAT HIRED THEM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, PAM. AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR COMMENTS ON CLOSED SESSION ITEMS. OKAY. WE

[5. CLOSED SESSION (Part 1 of 2)]

[6. REGULAR SESSION]

[7. REPORT OF BOARD ACTION TAKEN IN CLOSED SESSION]

[01:55:01]

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO OUR BOARD MEETING TONIGHT. THIS IS THE JAZZ COMBO FROM YORBA LINDA HIGH SCHOOL. THE REST OF OUR JAZZ ENSEMBLE IS BACK AT HOME STUDYING FOR AP SEASONS. HAVE A BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR OUR STUDENTS FOR TAKING A BREAK FROM APS TO COME AND PERFORM FOR YOU. OUR STUDENTS HAVE BEEN DOING A WONDERFUL JOB FIRST SEMESTER, SECOND SEMESTER PERFORMING IN FESTIVALS AT THE JAZZ FESTIVAL, THE IRVINE JAZZ FESTIVAL, AS WELL AS THE FULLERTON COLLEGE JAZZ FESTIVAL. OUR FIRST PIECE WAS MONSTERS, INC. AND WE'D LIKE TO INVITE ALL OF YOU ON MAY 21ST AT 6:30 P.M. AT THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, WE'RE GOING TO FEATURE OUR WILD JAZZ JAM WITH YORBA LINDA HIGH SCHOOL. TRAVIS RANCH AND OUR GUEST ARTISTS WILL BE THE NEW JETSET, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE PLAYING ALL KINDS OF DISNEY TUNES. SO WE HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE. OUR NEXT TUNE IS GOING TO SLOW IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT. IT'S A GREAT TUNE THAT YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD IN MANY DIFFERENT LANGUAGES, AND IT'S GOING TO FEATURE CAMELLIA ADAMS ON THE TRUMPET, WHO'S ALSO. OUR VALEDICTORIAN. EVERYONE, APPLAUSE FOR CAMELLIA ADAMS. AND THIS IS THE GIRL FROM IPANEMA.

[02:01:31]

[02:05:42]

HERE WE GO. ARE YOU OKAY? ARE YOU IN HERE HELEN. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. STUDENTS.

THAT WAS OUTSTANDING. PACKING UP. YEAH. YOU WANT TO DO THAT? YEAH. GO DOWN THERE. WHILE THEY'RE CLEANING UP. I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE COME TONIGHT TO SUPPORT AND THE TEACHERS AND ADMINISTRATORS FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING. WE'RE TRULY GRATEFUL FOR YOU COMING AND SHARING YOUR TIME WITH US AND STARTING OFF OUR BOARD MEETING. SO FESTIVE. AND WE HAVE PENS FOR YOU WHEN WE'RE SO WE'RE FOLLOWING YOU. WE'RE STALKING YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS YOU. THAT WAS TRUE. OKAY, MRS. BLADES, WILL YOU LEAD US IN THE FLAG SALUTE.

OKAY. LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT ALL BOARD MEMBERS ARE PRESENT TONIGHT. AND WE HAVE EXCUSED OUR STUDENT BOARD MEMBER TONIGHT, LAYLA ALMOND. SHE HAS A PRIOR COMMITMENT, SO WE NEED TO

[10. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

[11. PUBLIC COMMENT ANNOUNCEMENT]

[02:10:02]

ADDITIONALLY, IF THERE ARE ANY DISRUPTIONS OR INTERFERENCES AS THE BOARD'S ABILITY TO CONDUCT ITS MEETING, THE DISRUPTIVE PARTIES WILL BE GIVEN ONE WARNING. IF THE DISRUPTION CONTINUES, YOU'LL BE INFORMED THAT THE BY THE BOARD PRESIDENT HAS FOUND YOU DISRUPTED IN VIOLATION OF PENAL CODE SECTION 403, EDUCATION CODE SECTION 32210, AND THE BOARD PRESIDENT WILL ORDER YOU REMOVED FROM THE MEETING UNDER GOVERNMENT CODE 54957.954957.95. IF REMOVING ONE OR SEVERAL DISRUPTIVE PARTIES DOES NOT RESTORE ORDER, THE BOARD PRESIDENT WILL EXERCISE THEIR AUTHORITY TO CLEAR THE ROOM IN ACCORDANCE WITH GOVERNMENT CODE 54957.9. SO WE

[12. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. FRAZIER, A SECOND BY MRS. BLADES. ANY COMMENTS? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES FIVE ZERO. AND BLESS YOU. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO TURN

[13. RECOGNITIONS]

SHE SUPPORTS YOUNGER STUDENTS, ASSISTS WITH EVENTS, AND PROVIDES TUTORING. THE FIRST IN HER FAMILY TO ATTEND COLLEGE. MARIA ASPIRES TO STUDY AT UCLA OR VIRGINIA COMMONWEALTH UNIVERSITY AND PURSUE A CAREER IN THE MEDICAL FIELD. HER DEDICATION, HARD WORK, AND LEADERSHIP MAKE HER A TRUE AVID STANDOUT. LET'S GIVE HER A ROUND OF APPLAUSE.

NEXT UP, I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE AVID EIGHTH GRADE STANDOUT FROM TRAVIS RANCH MIDDLE AZAR, AND AR KIMI CARLOS TO JOIN ME. TRAVIS RANCH PRINCIPAL KRISTEN PETROVSKY IS ALSO HERE WITH US

[02:15:09]

LET'S GIVE HER A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. NEXT UP, I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE AVID EIGHTH GRADE STANDOUT FROM VALADEZ MIDDLE SCHOOL ACADEMY, EDWARD STOVALL AND AVID TEACHER JENNIFER GARCIA, TO JOIN ME. THE PRINCIPAL FROM VALADEZ, MR. WILL TRUONG, IS ALSO HERE TO SUPPORT EDWARD. HELLO. EDWARD DEMONSTRATES EVERY QUALITY OF THE AVID MODEL STUDENT. HE IS DRIVEN, FOCUSED, EAGER, KIND AND STRIVES FOR EXCELLENCE IN EVERYTHING HE DOES. IN ADDITION TO BEING DEDICATED TO HIS ACADEMICS, EDWARD DEDICATES HIMSELF TO HIS COMMUNITY BY VOLUNTEERING WITH HIS CHURCH GROUP, INCLUDING TRAVELING TO MEXICO AND ASSISTING THOSE IN NEED. EDWARD HAS A HUGE HEART AND WE ARE SO FORTUNATE HE GETS TO SHARE IT WITH US AT VALADEZ.

HANDSHAKES. THEY'LL DO A PICTURE. HE KNOWS HE'S WATCHED THE BOARD MEETINGS BEFORE. ALL RIGHT. LASTLY, I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE AVID EIGHTH GRADE STANDOUT FROM YORBA LINDA MIDDLE SCHOOL, GRAYSON SMITH, AND AVID TEACHER LENA HOWARD, TO JOIN ME. THEY ARE JOINED TONIGHT BY YORBA LINDA MIDDLE SCHOOL PRINCIPAL PAIGE STILLS AND COUNSELOR SALLY WYRICK. THANK YOU. GRAYSON IS THE TRUE DEFINITION OF AN AVID STANDOUT, DEDICATED, KIND, AND DRIVEN BY INDIVIDUAL DETERMINATION. AS A LEADER AT YORBA LINDA MIDDLE SCHOOL, HE IS DEEPLY COMMITTED TO SERVICE AND MAKING A POSITIVE IMPACT. HE PLAYS A KEY ROLE IN OUR BKTV ANNOUNCEMENTS, SERVES ON THE PRINCIPAL'S ADVISORY AND SCHOOL SAFETY COMMITTEES, AND CHOOSES TO BE A PART OF OUR UNIFIED PE PROGRAM SUPPORTING STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL. GRAYSON DEDICATES A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME TO HIS EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING MULTIPLE SPORTS, WHILE ALSO MAINTAINING STRAIGHT A'S. RESPECTED BY PEERS AND TEACHERS FOR HIS INTEGRITY, DEPENDABILITY, AND HEART, THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT HE WILL ACCOMPLISH INCREDIBLE THINGS, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING ALL THAT HE ACHIEVES. LET'S GIVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE TO GRAYSON.

THESE AVID EIGHTH GRADE STANDOUTS WILL ALSO BE RECOGNIZED BY THE ORANGE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND ANGELS BASEBALL ON MAY 13TH AT ANGEL STADIUM OF ANAHEIM. ALL OF

[02:20:04]

THE IRISH. WAIT, WAIT, HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON. ANY MOMS OR DADS WANT TO TAKE IT. PLEASE SIT DOWN. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WAIT. COME ON. DAD. DON'T RUSH. THANK YOU. YOU BET. ALL RIGHT, AVID STANDOUT STUDENTS, COME ON AROUND AND WE'LL PROCESS TO THE BACK FOR SOME OFFICIAL HANDSHAKES WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS. YEAH. NICE WORK. THANK YOU. NICE. CONGRATULATIONS.

CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS. GOOD JOB. STARTING US OFF. THANK. CONGRATULATIONS.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY. CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS. YEAH. THAT'S NICE. YEAH. I DON'T WANT TO. DO YOU WANT TO GET THE NEXT. ONE ON THE NEXT. OKAY. WE'RE NOW GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. YOUNG TO RECOGNIZE OUR MOCK TRIAL COMPETITION ART CONTEST WINNERS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. BOARD AND BOSSES. NEXT, THE TALENTED STUDENT FROM VALENCIA HIGH SCHOOL EARNED TOP HONORS IN A PRESTIGIOUS, COUNTYWIDE COMPETITION THAT BLENDS ART WITH THE LEGAL WORLD. THE COURTROOM ART CONTEST IS A DISTINGUISHED COMPETITION THAT OFFERS ARTISTICALLY TALENTED STUDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH THE MOCK TRIAL PROGRAM.

PARTICIPANTS OBSERVE THEIR SCHOOL'S MOCK TRIAL PROCEEDINGS AND CREATE DETAILED ILLUSTRATIONS OF COURTROOM SCENES EMULATING THE ROLE OF A PROFESSIONAL COURTROOM SKETCH ARTIST. EACH MOCK TRIAL TEAM MAY SUBMIT UP TO TWO COURTROOM ARTISTS, WITH THE COUNTY CHAMPION EARNING ELIGIBILITY TO COMPETE AT THE STATE LEVEL. AT THE STATE MOCK TRIAL FINALS, STUDENT ARTWORK IS JUDGED BY PROFESSIONALS IN THE FIELD, AND PARTICIPANTS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENHANCE THEIR SKILLS THROUGH WORKSHOPS LED BY EXPERIENCED COURTROOM ARTISTS.

I'D LIKE TO INVITE BILL MING FROM VALENCIA HIGH SCHOOL TO COME FORWARD AND LINE UP NEXT TO ME AT THE LECTERN. ALL RIGHT. VALENCIA HIGH SCHOOL SENIOR BILL MING WAS NAMED THE ORANGE COUNTY CHAMPION, WHILE EL DORADO HIGH SCHOOL FRESHMAN SALAH BEY EARNED THE DISTINCTION OF ORANGE COUNTY RUNNER UP IN THE ANNUAL COURTROOM ART CONTEST. AS YOU MAY RECALL, SHE WAS HONORED LAST MONTH ALONGSIDE THE MOCK TRIAL TEAM AS THE TOP TWO FINISHERS. BOTH STUDENTS QUALIFIED TO COMPETE AT THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS, WHERE THEY HAD A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO REFINE THEIR CRAFT UNDER THE MENTORSHIP OF A PROFESSIONAL COURTROOM ARTIST AT THE STATE FINALS, WHICH DREW THE MOST COMPETITIVE FIELD IN THE 44 YEAR OLD YEAR OLD HISTORY OF THE CALIFORNIA MOCK TRIAL, BILL MING ACHIEVED AN EXTRAORDINARY MILESTONE, EARNING SECOND PLACE IN THE ENTIRE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE ACCOMPLISHMENT THAT HIGHLIGHTS NOT ONLY HIS SKILL AND COMPOSURE UNDER PRESSURE, BUT ALSO HIS CONTINUED DEDICATION TO THE ARTS. A LOOK AT HIS DESIGN IS ON THE SCREEN. BEFORE YOU, PLEASE JOIN US IN CONGRATULATING BILL MING FOR HIS OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENTS. YOU MAKE PYLE, USD AND VALENCIA HIGH SCHOOL VERY PROUD. AND ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION AND THE DISTRICT, PLEASE ACCEPT THE CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT. NOW, I'D LIKE TO INVITE YOU TO SHAKE HANDS WITH ALL OF THE MEMBERS

[02:25:04]

SO. YOU DID IT. SOMETHING'S WRONG. WHY WAS IT IN THE SCRIPT? IT'S LOCKED. DOWN.

OH, AND THAT'S IT. OKAY, OKAY. YEAH. NO. YOU'RE ALL GOOD. OKAY. ISN'T THAT AMAZING? I GOT. I JUST NOTICED IT. THAT'S YEARS. I HAVEN'T MISSED IT. ALL RIGHT, YOU'RE CREATIVE. YEAH, YEAH. NO.

YOU'RE GOOD. EVERYTHING IN THERE? EVERYTHING. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. ANY ATTACHMENTS? THANKS. YEAH. AND IF I FAIL TO MENTION IT, THAT IS CHRIS HERZFELD, PRINCIPAL OF VALENCIA HIGH SCHOOL, HERE TO HELP RECOGNIZE HIM ALONG WITH HIS PARENT. ALL RIGHT. FOR OUR FINAL STUDENT RECOGNITION OF THE EVENING, WE ARE PROUD TO HONOR THE REMARKABLE ACHIEVEMENTS OF YORBA LINDA HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS CHASE KIM AND EUNICE KIM, WHO ADVANCED TO THE STATE LEVEL OF COMPETITION IN SPEECH AND DEBATE. UNFORTUNATELY, EUNICE IS UNABLE TO JOIN US THIS EVENING AS SHE'S PREPARING FOR AP TESTS, BUT I'D LIKE TO INVITE CHASE KIM TO COME FORWARD AND JOIN ME AT THE LECTERN. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. HIGH SCHOOL SPEECH AND DEBATE PROGRAMS PROVIDE STUDENTS WITH VALUABLE OPPORTUNITIES TO DEVELOP CRITICAL COMMUNICATION, RESEARCH AND ANALYTICAL THINKING SKILLS THROUGH COMPETITIVE SPEAKING EVENTS, PARTICIPANTS ENGAGE IN ACTIVITIES RANGING FROM PERSUASIVE AND INFORMATIVE SPEECHES TO STRUCTURED DEBATES ON CURRENT EVENTS AND PHILOSOPHICAL TOPICS. BY PREPARING ARGUMENTS, PRACTICING DELIVERY, AND RECEIVING CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK, STUDENTS LEARN TO EXPRESS THEIR IDEAS CLEARLY AND CONFIDENTLY. IN ADDITION TO ENHANCING PUBLIC SPEAKING ABILITIES, PARTICIPATION IN SPEECH AND DEBATE STRENGTHENS ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE, FOSTERS LEADERSHIP, AND PREPARES STUDENTS FOR SUCCESS IN COLLEGE AND BEYOND. THIS YEAR, THE YORBA LINDA HIGH SCHOOL SPEECH AND DEBATE TEAM COMPETED AT THE ORANGE COUNTY SPEECH LEAGUE SPRING OPEN IN FULLERTON, IN THE ORANGE COUNTY SPEECH LEAGUE STATE QUALIFIER IN LONG BEACH, BASED ON THEIR IMPRESSIVE PERFORMANCE AT THE STATE QUALIFIER, CHASE KIM AND EUNICE KIM QUALIFIED FOR THE CALIFORNIA HIGH SCHOOL SPEECH ASSOCIATION STATE CHAMPIONSHIP IN CULVER CITY. EUNICE PLACED FIRST IN THE CATEGORY OF ORIGINAL PROSE AND POETRY, WHILE CHASE PLACED FIFTH IN STUDENT CONGRESS. THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP IS MORE THAN JUST A TOURNAMENT. IT REPRESENTS THE TRANSFORMATIVE POWER OF SPEECH AND DEBATE TO EMPOWER STUDENTS TODAY TO BECOME THE LEADERS AND ADVOCATES OF TOMORROW. BOTH CHASE AND EUNICE HAVE DEDICATED COUNTLESS HOURS TO PERFECTING THEIR WORK, AND THEY ARE INCREDIBLY DESERVING OF THIS PRESTIGIOUS HONOR. PLEASE JOIN US IN CONGRATULATING CHASE AND EUNICE FOR THEIR OUTSTANDING ACCOMPLISHMENT. EUNICE, IF YOU'RE WATCHING THIS, WE'RE WISHING YOU ALL THE BEST IN YOUR AP EXAMS. AND I'D NOW LIKE TO INVITE CHASE TO SHAKE THE HANDS WITH OUR BOARD MEMBERS AND JOIN THEM FOR A COMMEMORATIVE PHOTO. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU.

CHASE.

CENTER UP TO.

[02:30:33]

[14. PRESENTATIONS]

I CAN HOLD MY BREATH. I CAN BITE MY TONGUE. I CAN STAY AWAKE FOR DAYS. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT.

BE ENOUGH. ONE. I CAN FACE A SMILE. I CAN FORM A LINE. I CAN DANCE AND PLAY THE PART. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU ASK. GIVE YOU ALL I AM. I CAN DO IT. I CAN DO IT, I CAN DO IT. BUT I'M ONLY HUMAN AND I BLEED WHEN I FALL DOWN I'M ONLY HUMAN. AND I CRAS. AND I BREAK DOWN YOUR WORDS IN MY HEAD. KNIVES IN MY HEART. YOU BUILD ME UP AND THEN I FALL APART. CAUSE I'M ONLY HUMAN. I CAN TURN IT ON. BEING A GOOD MACHINE. I CAN HOLD THE WEIGHT OF WORLDS. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU

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AND I FEEL. SO. THIS VIDEO REMINDS US THAT BENEATH EVERY SMILE, EVERY SILENCE AND EVERY OUTBURST IS A STUDENT ASKING TO BE ACCEPTED, PROTECTED AND UNDERSTOOD. OUR COMMITMENT TO ADVANCING BETTER CHOICES ISN'T JUST A CAMPAIGN. IT'S A PROMISE. A PROMISE TO LEAD WITH COURAGE, TO EDUCATE WITH COMPASSION, AND TO RESPOND WITH CLARITY. WHENEVER BULLYING TRIES TO TAKE ROOT AND ROOT, IT'S UGLY AND SHOW ITS UGLY HEAD. TONIGHT, DOCTOR BALDWIN PEDRAZA AND MISS TANYA GAUDIO OF STUDENT SERVICE WILL WALK OF STUDENT SERVICES WILL WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE IN ACTION. HOW WE DEFINE BULLYING, THE DATA WE'RE SEEING AND THE BOLD STEPS WE'RE TAKING THROUGH OUR NEW DISTRICT WIDE INITIATIVE. SO, DOCTOR PEDRAZA, THANK YOU, MISS GRAY. GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT ANDERSON. TRUSTEES, SUPERINTENDENT DOCTOR RENO AND OUR EXECUTIVE CABINET MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF OUR PYLUSD COMMUNITY. I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE AN IMPORTANT AND TIMELY INITIATIVE AIMED AT PROTECTING THE WELL-BEING OF OUR STUDENTS AND PROMOTING A CULTURE OF EMPATHY, RESPECT AND SAFETY ACROSS ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS. TONIGHT, WE WILL WALK THROUGH A CONVERSATION ON THE TOPIC OF BULLYING THAT, WHILE NOT NEW, HAS EMERGED AS AN ESSENTIAL TOPIC WHERE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO TAKE INTENTIONAL STEPS IN THE AREA OF PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION. SO LET'S GROUND OURSELVES FIRST WITH WHAT WE'LL BE COVERING TONIGHT, WHICH WILL INCLUDE, AS MISS GRAY SHARED, DEFINING AND RECOGNIZING WHAT IS BULLYING, THE TYPES OF BULLYING, SOME DATA, AND HOW WE ARE WORKING TO PROMOTE HEALING THROUGH RESTORING SAFETY AND SUPPORT. SO WHY NOW? WELL, WE HAVE BOTH A LEGAL AND AN ETHICAL OBLIGATION FOR ENSURING OUR SCHOOLS ARE SAFE AND SUPPORTIVE LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS. ASSEMBLY BILL 2291, WHICH BECAME EFFECTIVE IN 2019, REQUIRES THAT ALL LEAS ADOPT PROCEDURES FOR PREVENTING ACTS OF BULLYING, INCLUDING CYBERBULLYING. IN FACT, AT OUR LAST BOARD MEETING, WE DID ACKNOWLEDGE TO OUR MENTAL HEALTH RESOLUTION THAT BULLYING CAN BE SEEN AS A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTOR TO MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES AMONGST OUR STUDENTS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THE PROFOUND IMPACT BULLYING HAS ON STUDENTS ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE, ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE, SCHOOL ATTENDANCE AND MENTAL HEALTH ALL AREAS THAT ARE CENTRAL TO STUDENT SUCCESS. A CLIMATE OF FEAR AND DISTRUST CAN BE CREATED FOR STUDENTS WHO HAVE WITNESSED OR EXPERIENCED BULLYING, AND THE RESEARCH IS CLEAR. SCHOOL CONNECTEDNESS, FEELINGS OF BEING SAFE, SUPPORTED AND VALUED IS ONE OF THE STRONGEST PREDICTORS OF STUDENT SUCCESS. IF BULLYING. BULLYING IS NOT ADDRESSED, IT CAN ESCALATE INTO LONG TERM TRAUMA AND AFFECT CHILDREN WELL BEYOND THEIR SCHOOL YEARS. THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT EARLY INTERVENTION WORKS. IT CAN HELP REDUCE HARM AND RESHAPE BEHAVIOR. AND WHEN WE EMPOWER STUDENTS TO BE UPSTANDERS, NOT BYSTANDERS, WE SHIFT OUR SCHOOL CULTURE FROM PASSIVE TOLERANCE TO EMPOWERED SUPPORT. AND UPSTANDER IS SOMEONE WHO TAKES ACTION WHEN THEY WITNESS BULLYING, MISTREATMENT, OR INJUSTICE RATHER THAN JUST STANDING BY AND DOING NOTHING. SO LET'S START WITH A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT BULLYING IS. SO BULLYING IS ANY UNWANTED, SEVERE PHYSICAL OR VERBAL ACT, INCLUDING THROUGH ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS, THAT INVOLVED AN OBSERVED OR PERCEIVED POWER IMBALANCE AND IS REPEATED MULTIPLE TIMES. IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT BULLYING IS NOT JUST KIDS BEING KIDS, A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE THAT CAN HAVE SERIOUS, LONG LASTING IMPACTS ON EVERYONE INVOLVED, NOT JUST THE PERSON BULLYING, BUT ALSO BYSTANDERS WHO WITNESS BULLYING AND THOSE WHO BULLY.

BULLYING TAKES MANY FORMS. AS WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE TYPES OF BULLYING, AND UNDERSTANDING THESE IS A KEY TO ADDRESSING IT EFFECTIVELY IN OUR SCHOOLS. THE FOUR PRIMARY TYPES OF BULLYING, AS YOU CAN SEE OUTLINED HERE PHYSICAL BULLYING, VERBAL BULLYING, SOCIAL OR RELATIONAL BULLYING, AND CYBER BULLYING. TO GO FURTHER, ACCORDING TO RECENT DATA FROM NATIONAL CENTER FOR EDUCATION STATISTICS AND CDC'S YOUTH RISK BEHAVIOR SURVEY, CYBERBULLYING IS NOW THE MOST RAPIDLY INCREASING FORM OF BULLYING, PARTICULARLY AMONG MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.

IN FACT, OVER 1 IN 5 STUDENTS REPORT EXPERIENCING BULLYING ONLINE, AND THE NUMBERS ARE HIGHER FOR FEMALE STUDENTS. SO WITH THE SHIFT TOWARDS THIS DIGITAL HARASSMENT, BULLYING CAN NOW FOLLOW STUDENTS HOME BEYOND SCHOOL GROUNDS, MAKING IT EVEN MORE CRITICAL FOR ALL OF US AS

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IT'S A WIDESPREAD CHALLENGE AFFECTING STUDENT WELL-BEING AND STUDENT CLIMATE ON A GLOBAL SCALE. LOOKING AT SOME DATA FROM ORANGE COUNTY OUTLINED THROUGH THE CALIFORNIA HEALTHY KIDS SURVEY AS QUICK BACKGROUND, THE CALIFORNIA HEALTHY KIDS SURVEY, OR CHICKS, IS A TOOL DESIGNED TO GIVE US DEEP INSIGHT INTO STUDENTS EXPERIENCES, NEEDS, AND WELL-BEING, AND IT'S CORE ASSESSES SCHOOL CLIMATE, STUDENT ENGAGEMENT, AND BARRIERS TO LEARNING SUCH AS MENTAL HEALTH, FEELINGS OF SAFETY, AND SCHOOL CONNECTEDNESS. WE DO NOT CURRENTLY PARTICIPATE IN ADMINISTERING THE CHICKS, BUT WE ARE LOOKING TO THE ADMINISTRATION OF THIS SURVEY FOR NEXT YEAR, WHICH TYPICALLY TAKES PLACE FOR STUDENTS IN GRADES FIVE, SEVEN, NINE, AND 11. WE'RE HOPING THAT BY ADMINISTERING THE CHICKS, WE CAN GAIN SOME ACTIONABLE DATA DIRECTLY FROM STUDENTS, HELPING US GAIN COMPARABLE DATA TO OTHER DISTRICTS IN THE COUNTY AND THE STATE. WHAT'S AN INTERESTING FINDING? IN A SEPARATE STUDY STUDY, 28% OF MIDDLE SCHOOLS, 15% OF HIGH SCHOOLS, AND 10% OF ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS REPORTED THE OCCURRENCE OF BULLYING AT SCHOOLS AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK. WHAT CAN BE TAKEN FROM THIS ARE HIGH REPORTS OF BULLYING AT THE SECONDARY LEVEL, AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS DATA, FEELINGS OF SAFETY AT SCHOOL DECREASES AS OUR STUDENTS GET OLDER. SO ON OUR NEXT SLIDE, WHICH FOCUSES ON A LOCAL INDICATOR FOR PYLUSD THROUGH OUR STAKEHOLDER STUDENT SURVEY. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE RESULTS ARE SIMILAR IN REGARDS TO FEELINGS OF SAFETY AT SCHOOL DECREASING AS STUDENTS MOVE INTO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. THIS IS A CRITICAL WINDOW WHERE TARGETED BULLYING PREVENTION CAN MAKE A REAL DIFFERENCE. BY IDENTIFYING THIS SHIFT, WE CAN WORK TO TAKE MORE INTENTIONAL EFFORTS. INTENTIONAL EFFORTS TO BUILD STUDENT CONNECTEDNESS, ADULT STUDENT RELATIONSHIPS, AND COMMUNITY WITHIN OUR SCHOOLS AND WITHIN OUR CLASSROOMS. OKAY, AND FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL SLIDES, I'M GOING TO HAVE MY ESTEEMED COLLEAGUE, MISS TANYA GORDILLO, COME UP. THANK YOU. SO ADVANCING BETTER CHOICES. LET ME SHARE A STORY THAT BRINGS THIS WORK TO LIFE. SAMMY WAS NEW TO OUR SCHOOL BEFORE HE BEGAN. HIS PARENTS MET WITH ME TO SHARE THAT HE HAD EXPERIENCED BULLYING AT HIS PREVIOUS SCHOOL BECAUSE HE STUTTERED TOGETHER. WE MADE A PLAN NOT TO HIDE HIS DIFFERENCE, BUT TO EDUCATE HIS CLASSMATES ABOUT IT. WE TALKED WITH THE CLASS ABOUT WHAT STUTTERING IS, WHAT CAUSES IT, AND HOW IT CAN FEEL TO BE MISUNDERSTOOD BECAUSE OF IT. WE ALSO SHARED SAMMY'S STORY WITH HIS PERMISSION, AND SOMETHING INCREDIBLE HAPPENED. THE CLASS DIDN'T JUST BECOME ACCEPTING, THEY BECAME PROTECTIVE. THEY STARTED LOOKING OUT FOR SAMMY, MAKING SURE HE FELT INCLUDED AND SUPPORTED IN CLASS. WHEN SAMMY VOLUNTEERED TO READ ALOUD, HIS PEERS WERE PATIENT AND RESPECTFUL. NO ONE RUSHED HIM, CORRECTED HIM, OR SPOKE FOR HIM. THEY GAVE HIM THE TIME AND SPACE JUST TO BE SAMMY.

THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE DISCOVERED THAT SAMMY DIDN'T STUTTER WHEN SPEAKING INTO A MICROPHONE. WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE, HE BEGAN VOLUNTEERING MORE, READING, PRESENTING, AND GRABBING THE MIC WITH CONFIDENCE. HIS CLASSMATES CHEERED HIM ON AND ON THE PLAYGROUND. THEY MADE SURE HE WAS ALWAYS INCLUDED IN GAMES AND ACTIVITIES. THAT'S WHAT THE ABC CAMPAIGN IS ALL ABOUT. IT'S ABOUT EDUCATION, TEACHING STUDENTS, STAFF AND FAMILIES TO UNDERSTAND AND EMBRACE DIFFERENCES. IT'S ABOUT WORKING TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT EVERY STUDENT IS SEEN VALUED AND ACCEPTED FOR EXACTLY WHO THEY ARE. WHEN WE EDUCATE, WE EMPOWER, AND WHEN WE EMPOWER, WE CHANGE LIVES. SO WHAT IS ABC ADVANCING BETTER CHOICES.

ADVANCING BETTER CHOICES IS OUR DISTRICT'S PROACTIVE CAMPAIGN TO PREVENT AND ADDRESS BULLYING THROUGH A STRENGTHS BASED APPROACH. AT ITS CORE, ABC FOCUSES ON THREE FOUNDATIONAL

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WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT OUR STUDENTS ARE WATCHING US, AND IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE. THROUGH THIS DISTRICT WIDE EFFORT, WE ARE COMMITTED TO EDUCATING NOT ONLY OUR STAFF, BUT ALSO OUR STUDENTS, FAMILIES AND DISTRICT COMMUNITY TO BUILD A SHARED CULTURE OF KINDNESS ACCOUNTABILITY. AS PART OF THIS WORK, WE ARE EXPLORING EVIDENCE BASED BULLYING PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION PROGRAMS FOR OUR STUDENTS AND GRADES K THROUGH 12. THESE MAY INCLUDE COMPONENTS FROM SECOND STEP AND THE OLVA'S BULLYING PREVENTION PROGRAM, WHICH HELPS STUDENTS BUILD THE SKILLS TO RECOGNIZE, REFUSE, AND REPORT BULLYING WHILE ALSO STRENGTHENING THEIR SOCIAL SKILLS. ELEMENTARY COUNSELORS AND SECONDARY WELLNESS COACHES WILL ALSO FURTHER SUPPORT PREVENTION EFFORTS BY DELIVERING CLASSROOM PRESENTATIONS ON BULLYING, DIGITAL SAFETY, AND HEALTHY PEER RELATIONSHIPS. WE WILL ALSO ENGAGE FAMILIES THROUGH WORKSHOPS AND REINFORCE A POSITIVE SCHOOL CLIMATE THROUGH STUDENT LEADERSHIP, KINDNESS CAMPAIGNS AND COLLABORATION ACROSS THE SCHOOL COMMUNITY. WHEN INCIDENTS OCCUR, OUR RESPONSE MUST BE BOTH PROMPT AND THOUGHTFUL. WE BEGIN BY RESPONDING IMMEDIATELY AND CONSISTENTLY TO ALL INCIDENTS OF BULLYING, ENSURING THAT STUDENTS FEEL SUPPORTED AND SAFE.

CONFLICT IS ADDRESSED THROUGH FACILITATED CONVERSATIONS AND AGREEMENTS THAT PROMOTE UNDERSTANDING AND REPAIR, RATHER THAN FOCUSING SOLELY ON DISCIPLINE, WE WILL ENGAGE STUDENTS IN REFLECTION AND ACCOUNTABILITY, HELPING THEM TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THEIR ACTIONS.

THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN HARMED ARE MEANINGFULLY INVOLVED IN THE HEALING PROCESS WITH THEIR VOICES AND NEEDS PRIORITIZED. SUPPORT IS PROVIDED FOR BOTH HARMED AND HARMING STUDENTS, INCLUDING ACCESS TO COUNSELING AND INTERVENTIONS. WE WILL WORK TO REESTABLISH CLASSROOM AND SCHOOL EXPECTATIONS THROUGH COMMUNITY BUILDING EFFORTS THAT INVOLVE BOTH STAFF AND STUDENTS.

ADDITIONALLY, WE'LL TRACK THE PATTERNS TO IDENTIFY TRENDS, INFORM OUR PRACTICES, AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS THAT HELP PREVENT FUTURE INCIDENTS. IN MORE COMPLEX OR ONGOING CASES. OUR ABC DISTRICT SUPPORT TEAM, CONSISTING OF MEMBERS OF THE STUDENT SUPPORT SERVICES TEAM, PROVIDES AN ADDED LAYER OF PROBLEM SOLVING THROUGH A TEAM PROBLEM SOLVING APPROACH. THE ABC TEAM WORKS CLOSELY WITH PRINCIPALS, COUNSELORS, AND SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGISTS TO UNDERSTAND THE FULL CONTEXT OF EACH CASE. TOGETHER, WE REVIEW DOCUMENTED INTERVENTIONS AND ASSESS WHETHER ALL TIER ONE AND TIER TWO SUPPORTS HAVE BEEN THOROUGHLY IMPLEMENTED. WHEN NEEDED, WE ENGAGE IN SAFETY PLANNING THAT GOES BEYOND TREATING EVERY STUDENT THE SAME, RECOGNIZING THAT EFFECTIVE SUPPORT MUST BE TAILORED TO THE INDIVIDUAL NEEDS OF EACH STUDENT, AND CASES WHERE SAFETY OR SUCCESS IS STILL A CONCERN. WE MAY RECOMMEND PROGRAM ADJUSTMENTS SUCH AS AN ALTERNATIVE SUPPORT PLACEMENT OR TEMPORARY SITE TRANSFER TO CREATE THE BEST ENVIRONMENT FOR LEARNING AND HEALING. FINALLY, WE ARE COMMITTED TO MONITORING AND FOLLOWING UP, ENSURING THAT EVERY PLAN INCLUDES ACCOUNTABILITY, ONGOING COMMUNICATION, AND CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR ALL STUDENTS INVOLVED. AT THE HEART OF OUR WORK IS A COMMITMENT TO BELIEVING IN ALL STUDENTS. WE UNDERSTAND THAT EDUCATORS EXPECTATIONS CAN EITHER OPEN DOORS OR PLACE LIMITS, AND WE ARE INTENTIONAL ABOUT SETTING HIGH, SUPPORTIVE EXPECTATIONS THAT HELP EVERY STUDENT THRIVE. THIS ALSO MEANS PROVIDING

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WHEN STUDENTS FEEL A SENSE OF BELONGING, THEY ARE MORE ENGAGED, CONFIDENT AND READY TO LEARN. DISCIPLINE MUST BE APPLIED IN A NONDISCRIMINATORY FASHION IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS. AN ARTICLE IN THE LOS ANGELES TIMES RAISED AWARENESS ABOUT STUDENTS BEING ENCOURAGED TO LEAVE SCHOOLS THROUGH INFORMAL PROCESSES, SUCH AS SCHOOL TRANSFERS. WHILE RARE, THESE PRACTICES CAN INADVERTENTLY LIMIT STUDENTS OPPORTUNITIES WITHOUT PROVIDING THE NECESSARY SUPPORT. IN OUR DISTRICT, WE ARE COMMITTED TO INTERVENTIONS THAT PROMOTE GROWTH AND BELONGING RATHER THAN EXCLUSION. ABC REFLECTS THAT PHILOSOPHY, ENSURING EVERY STUDENT HAS ACCESS TO THE RESOURCES AND RELATIONSHIPS THEY NEED TO SUCCEED. THIS QUOTE, ADAPTED FROM HAYIM GANOT, CAPTURES THE PROFOUND IMPACT ADULTS HAVE IN SCHOOLS. OUR DEMEANOR, CHOICES, AND RESPONSES CREATE THE EMOTIONAL TONE OF THE CLASSROOM, WHETHER IN MOMENTS OF CELEBRATION OR CONFLICT. OUR ACTIONS EITHER UPLIFT OR DIMINISH. ABC CALLS ON US TO BE INSTRUMENTS OF INSPIRATION, TO SEE EVERY CHILD'S HUMANITY, AND TO MODEL THE COMPASSION WE HOPE TO INSTILL IN THEM. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION THIS EVENING. WE RECOGNIZE THAT AS A DISTRICT, WE'VE MADE EFFORTS IN THE PAST TO ADDRESS BULLYING, AND THIS CAMPAIGN BUILDS ON THAT FOUNDATION. WE UNDERSTAND THERE IS A NEED FOR CONSISTENT IMPLEMENTATION AND ACCOUNTABILITY. ABC ADVANCING BETTER CHOICES IS OUR NEXT STEP FORWARD, OFFERING A MORE UNIFIED, SUPPORTIVE AND PROACTIVE APPROACH TO PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION. WE'RE COMMITTED TO ENSURING EVERY STUDENT FEELS SAFE, SUPPORTED AND RESPECTED AT SCHOOL.

COLLABORATIVELY, WE CAN STRENGTHEN OUR SYSTEMS AND SUSTAIN A CULTURE WHERE KINDNESS AND CONNECTION ARE THE NORM. WE WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS NOW. THANK YOU.

YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT SECOND STEP WAS GOING TO BE USED. IS THAT JUST AS AN INTERVENTION OR IS THAT SOMETHING GOING TO BE ROLLED OUT ACROSS ALL CLASSES? MANY OF OUR CLASSROOMS ARE ALREADY USING SECOND STEP. SO IT'S REALLY LOOKING AT MORE OF THE BULLYING COMPONENT THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT. WE DO HAVE IT IN MOST OF THE ELEMENTARY SITES. AND SO JUST LOOKING AT THAT BULLYING PREVENTION PIECE AND WE'RE ALSO TAKING INVENTORY RIGHT NOW OF THE WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. AND THEN LOOKING TO SEE IF ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE UPDATED AS WELL AS SECOND STEP. IT'S GONE DIGITAL. YEAH. DIGITAL. YEAH. WHEN IS THE TRAINING GOING TO TAKE PLACE FOR THE ENTIRE DISTRICT. SO EVERYONE'S ON THE SAME PAGE. WE'RE GOING TO BE INTRODUCING IT THIS THURSDAY AT OUR PRINCIPALS MEETING, AND THEN BEGIN ROLLING IT OUT THROUGH TRAININGS STARTING AT REALLY THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, SO THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE FROM THE BEGINNING, BUT IT WILL BE INTRODUCED. WE'VE ALREADY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY ALSO TO PILOT WITH JUST A FEW DIFFERENT SCHOOL SITES. AND, YOU KNOW, JUST THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED SO FAR IS THAT IT REALLY HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE IN, YOU KNOW, A STUDENT'S LIFE THAT WAS HARMING BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT HARMED PEOPLE, HARM PEOPLE. AND SO, AGAIN, GETTING TO THAT ROOT CORE AND SO RECOGNIZING THAT. SO WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH OUR PRINCIPALS THIS WEEK AND THEN MOVE ON FROM THERE. THANK YOU.

ONE MORE THING. CAN YOU GUYS COME BACK NEXT YEAR AND REPORT ABOUT HOW THIS HAS WORKED. YES.

AND KIND OF BRING US SOME DATA. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'M VERY CURIOUS ABOUT THE, THE RECORD KEEPING AND HOW THAT IS GOING TO GO AND MONITORING. WE ALL KNOW PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN BULLIED IN SCHOOL AND SEEING THOSE THOSE EFFECTS ON THOSE STUDENTS. AND IT'S AND IT'S PERSONAL TO MANY OF US. YEAH. SO I'M GLAD WE'RE ADDRESSING IT AND I'M GLAD WE'RE HAVING A CLEAR UNIFORM PROCESS.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, WE'RE ABSOLUTELY WOULD LOVE TO COME BACK AND SHARE NOT JUST QUANTITATIVE DATA, BUT ALSO WE'D LIKE TO TAKE A CHANCE TO TALK TO STUDENTS, TALK TO FAMILIES, AND SEE HOW, YOU KNOW, AND ADMINISTRATORS ARE ON STAFF TO SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING AND MAYBE SHARE SOME OF THAT AS WELL TO PERFECT ONE THING. AND MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE THIS AT YOUR FINGERTIPS, BUT IN THE SLIDE THAT YOU SHOWED WITH THE PILL DATA, IT LOOKS LIKE WE ACTUALLY IMPROVED OVER 2024 SLIGHTLY, BUT STILL IMPROVEMENTS IMPROVEMENT. DO YOU EVER KNOW WHAT THE

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AND I THINK YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. I THINK FOR OUR SECONDARY WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND SO OUR PLAN IS TO WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM. AND THEN THE COUNTY COUNTY OFFICE OF ED AS WELL. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT NAME O O W E US? IT'S A BULLYING PREVENTION PROGRAM THAT'S EVIDENCE BASED.

OBPP. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS. AND I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A LOT OF WORK AND A LONG TIME COMING. SO THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. OKAY. THE WE DO NOT HAVE A STUDENT BOARD REPORT TONIGHT.

[16. SUPERINTENDENT'S REPORT]

COMMUNITY HONOREE CEREMONY. LOOKING AHEAD ON MAY 19TH, WE'RE EXCITED TO HOST OUR ANNUAL COMMUNITY HONORARY CEREMONY AT THE FORUM AT YORBA LINDA HIGH SCHOOL. EACH YEAR, SCHOOL SITES SELECT A COMMUNITY HONOREE WHO HAS DEDICATED THEIR TIME AND ENERGY TO SUPPORTING STUDENTS

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[17. PUBLIC COMMENT]

YES, 34 SPEAKERS. SO EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN ONE MINUTE. DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND OKAY. YES. OUR I'M GOING TO CALL THE FIRST FIRST FOUR. AND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME UP TO THE FIRST ROW MADISON MINER. NELLY, RAFAEL, LINDA COHN AND DAVE ARE. PLEASE, PLEASE HAVE A SEAT PLEASE. AND THE FIRST SPEAKER IS MADISON MINER. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MADISON MINER. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT. I AM HERE REPRESENTING PROTECT OUR KIDS, AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S LOCAL, AND I AM HERE IN FAVOR OF RESOLUTION 18.3. I THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS IMPORTANT RESOLUTION. IT'S MORE THAN A POLICY. IT'S A STATEMENT ABOUT VALUES, FAIRNESS, SAFETY AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR GIRLS IN SPORTS. TITLE NINE WAS PASSED TO ENSURE THAT FEMALE ATHLETES COULD COMPETE ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD, AND THAT PROMISE IS WORTH PROTECTING. THIS RESOLUTION AFFIRMS THAT VISION. IT ENSURES BIOLOGICAL GIRLS CAN COMPETE SAFELY AND FAIRLY, NOT TO EXCLUDE, BUT TO PRESERVE OPPORTUNITIES. GENERATIONS OF WOMEN FOUGHT FOR. PROTECTING OUR KIDS STANDS WITH YOUNG ATHLETES, THEIR FAMILIES, AND THE WOMEN WHO CAME BEFORE THEM. AND TO BOARD MEMBER MARILYN, I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW WHAT'S AT STAKE.

YOU'RE A MOM. YOU HAVE KIDS OF YOUR OWN. PLEASE, PLEASE, I BEG OF YOU, STAND FOR THIS RESOLUTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS MINER. NELLY. RAFAEL, WELCOME. I'M IN FAVOR OF 18.3. I AM GRAVELY CONCERNED ABOUT THE RECENT TREND OF ALLOWING MALES TO COMPETE IN GIRLS SPORTS. THIS DECISION NOT ONLY UNDERMINES THE PRINCIPLES OF FAIRNESS AND EQUALITY, BUT ALSO PUTS OUR DAUGHTERS AS A SIGNIFICANT DISADVANTAGE. IT IS A MATTER OF PROTECTING THE RIGHTS AND OPPORTUNITIES OF OUR GIRLS TO COMPETE ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD, AND TO PURSUE THEIR ATHLETIC DREAMS WITHOUT FACING UNFAIR COMPETITION. BY ALLOWING MALES TO COMPETE IN GIRLS SPORTS, WE ARE JEOPARDIZING THE SAFETY, WELL-BEING AND FUTURE OF OUR FEMALE ATHLETES. THE PHYSICAL ADVANTAGES THAT MALES POSSESS, SUCH AS GREATER STRENGTH, STRENGTH AND SPEED, CAN POSE A SERIOUS RISK OF INJURY TO OUR DAUGHTERS WHEN THEY ARE FORCED TO COMPETE AGAINST MALE ATHLETES. THIS ONLY PUTS OUR GIRLS AT A DISADVANTAGE, BUT ALSO RAISES CONCERNS ABOUT THEIR PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL WELL-BEING. ON THE FIELD OF COMPETITION, I URGE ALL PARENTS, COACHES AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO JOIN ME IN STANDING UP FOR OUR DAUGHTERS AND PROTECTING GIRLS SPORTS FROM MALES COMPETING. LET US COME TOGETHER, ADVOCATE FOR POLICIES AND REGULATIONS THAT UPHOLD THE INTEGRITY AND FAIRNESS OF GIRLS SPORTS. THANK YOU, MISS RAFAEL.

LINDA COHEN. MY SUPPORT OF THE SAME RESOLUTION MAKES ME, IN THE EYES OF SOME, A HATEFUL BIGOT.

IT'S NO COMFORT THAT 88 YEAR, NEARLY 80% OF MY FELLOW AMERICANS MAY SHARE MY POINT OF VIEW. ALL THAT MATTERS TO ME IS HOW MY COMMUNITY FEELS, AND FAR TOO MANY HAVE BEEN SILENT. THOSE

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I HONESTLY HAVE NO ANSWERS, ONLY QUESTIONS. FOR EXAMPLE, AM I BLINDED BY IGNORANCE BECAUSE I DO NOT STAND AND CHEER A BOY WHO HAS JUST DECIMATED GIRLS IN A MEANINGLESS COMPETITION? THIS RESOLUTION IS ONLY THE BEGINNING. PROTECT NOT ONLY GIRLS SPORTS, BUT PROTECT BOTH BOYS AND GIRLS THAT ARE BEING SWEPT UP INTO THE MYTHOLOGY THAT THEY CAN RECREATE THEMSELVES.

THANK YOU, MISS COHEN. DAVE, ARE. A MONTH AGO. IT APPEARS TRUSTEE BLADES LEAKED INFORMATION ABOUT THE INVESTIGATIVE REPORT BEING COMPLETED, ALONG WITH A DEMAND THAT ACTION BE TAKEN, EVEN GOING SO FAR AS TO SUGGEST THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY MIGHT INEVITABLY GET INVOLVED. NOW WE'RE HEARING INQUIRIES ABOUT WHEN WILL THE REPORT BE MADE PUBLIC, AND NEXT, WE'RE SURE TO HEAR ACCUSATIONS THAT THE CURRENT BOARD MAJORITY IS NOT BEING TRANSPARENT ABOUT ITS FINDINGS. LET'S KILL THIS RUMOR BEFORE SHE CAN FUEL IT ANY FURTHER. THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT WILL NEVER SEE THIS REPORT AND FOR GOOD REASON. THIS REPORT WAS PREPARED AS A TOOL FOR EVALUATING ANTICIPATED AND EXISTING LITIGATION. ULTIMATELY, IT WOULD BE GROSSLY NEGLIGENT FOR THIS REPORT TO BE DISSEMINATED TO THE PUBLIC, WHICH INCLUDES ADVERSARIAL LITIGANTS IN THE INDIVIDUAL CASES. TRUSTEE BLADES YOU KNOW OR SHOULD KNOW BETTER COUNSEL FOR THE DISTRICT IS PRESENT THIS EVENING, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE SOMEONE FROM THE BOARD TO INQUIRE DIRECTLY, IN THE PRESENCE OF THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE NATURE OF THIS REPORT AND WHETHER OR NOT IT'S REASONABLE TO EXPECT THE PUBLIC RELEASE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU DAVE. OUR NEXT FOUR SPEAKERS, PLEASE COME TO THE FRONT. STEPHANIE CAMACHO, VAN DIKE, SAM MAROVICH, EVELYN JONES, AND DENISE MAY AND STEPHANIE. YOU MAY APPROACH THE PODIUM. GREAT. GOOD EVENING TRUSTEES. MY NAME IS STEPHANIE AND I'M THE SENIOR DIRECTOR OF ADVOCACY AND EDUCATION AT THE LGBTQ CENTER. OCH, I'M SPEAKING TODAY IN STRONG SUPPORT OF OUR TRANS STUDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES WITHIN PLACENTIA-YORBA LINDA UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT.

WE KNOW THAT PROVIDING STUDENTS WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO FULLY PARTICIPATE IN SCHOOL IS SIGNIFICANT. IT GREATLY IMPACTS THEIR ABILITY TO LEARN AND DEVELOP CRITICAL LIFE SKILLS SUCH AS LEADERSHIP, TEAM BUILDING, SELF-CONFIDENCE, AND RESILIENCY. I WANT TO REFLECT ON THE DISTRICT'S LISTED CORE VALUES AS THEY'RE LISTED ON THEIR WEBSITE. EXCELLENCE, COLLABORATION, INTEGRITY, AND INNOVATION. IF THIS DISTRICT TRULY, TRULY PURSUES EXCELLENCE, THEN EVERY STUDENT MUST BE GIVEN EQUITABLE OPPORTUNITIES TO SUCCEED, NOT JUST SOME. IF YOU BELIEVE IN COLLABORATION, THEN I ASK, ARE YOU LISTENING TO THE STUDENTS AND FAMILIES WHO ARE MOST AFFECTED BY THIS RESOLUTION? ARE THEIR VOICES BEING WELCOMED INTO THIS CONVERSATION, OR ARE THEY BEING RELEASED? ERASED INTEGRITY MEANS FOSTERING RELATIONSHIPS THAT PROMOTE HONESTY AND RESPONSIBILITY, THE RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THE WELL-BEING OF OUR STUDENTS, STUDENT AND SCHOOL COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, MISS CAMACHO VAN DIKE, SAM MAROVICH. HELLO, MY NAME IS SAM MAROVICH. THE BOARD SHOULD POSTPONE A ON THE POORLY ARTICULATED, WILLFULLY IGNORANT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2423. THIS RESOLUTION WILL VIOLATE THE RIGHTS OF TRANSGENDER ATHLETES ENCODED IN STATE LAW AND CIF RULES. THE BOARD SHOULD PROVIDE.

BEFORE VOTING ON THIS. THE BOARD SHOULD PROVIDE AT LEAST AN HOUR OF PUBLIC SESSION TIME TO HEAR FROM ESTABLISHED EXPERTS IN THE FIELDS OF GENETICS AND BIOCHEMISTRY OF TRANSGENDERISM, SO THAT WE CAN BECOME MORE PRECISE IN THE LANGUAGE WE USE ABOUT THIS SMALL AND VULNERABLE COMMUNITY. I'M SORRY, MENTAL ILLNESS CAN CAN I START AGAIN? PLEASE RECLAIM MY TIME. WE HEARD IT. WE HEARD IT. OKAY. WE ALL NEED TO BE RESPECTFUL. THANK YOU. AND WE RECLAIM HIS TIME. I THINK LAST TIME I SAW IT WAS LIKE 25 SECONDS. SO WE'LL GIVE THEM 30. HOW ABOUT 30S? THESE EXPERTS SHOULD ADDRESS TOPICS IN THE FIELD OF GENDER AND SEXUALITY THAT HAVE BEEN WELL DOCUMENTED IN THE REFEREED SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE. THESE VARIATIONS ON GENDER IDENTITIES AND SEXUALITY PERMEATE ALL OF NATURE. THEY ARE PART OF THE MARVELOUS COMPLEXITY AND BEAUTY OF THE CREATED ORDER. RESOLUTION 2423 IS DESIGNED TO APPEAL TO APPEAL TO OUR BASE BIGOTRIES AS

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YOU JUST PROVIDED AN ANTI-BULLYING CAMPAIGN. I THINK THAT IF YOU PASS THIS RESOLUTION OR YOU ALLOW BOYS TO PLAY ON GIRLS SPORTS, YOU'RE GOING AGAINST WHAT YOU BOTH JUST PRESENTED. IN ADDITION TO THAT, I HAVE THREE CHILDREN. THREE OF THEM HAVE A.D.D, ADHD, ANXIETY BECAUSE MY MOTHER SUFFERED FROM DEPRESSION. I CAN TELL YOU THAT MY SON, WHO GRADUATED IN 2022, DID NOT GET THE HELP THAT HE NEEDED. HE SUFFERED EVERY TIME YOU GUYS PUT HIM ON PLEXIGLAS, HE DIDN'T. HE COULDN'T WEAR A MASK BECAUSE HE HAD ANXIETY LGBTQ WHEN HE WOULD HAVE TURNING POINTS, EVENTS WOULD PUT STICKERS ALL OVER HIS, YOU KNOW, HIS FLIERS. NOTHING WAS DONE.

NOTHING. AND MRS. GORDILLO, YOU ALSO PREVENTED MY SON RICHARD. MR. JONES, REMEMBER FOURTH GRADE. WRONG PERSON TO BE DOING THIS ANTI-BULLYING. DENISE MAY PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. HI, I'M DENISE MAY, AND I'M SPEAKING BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE POSSIBLE RESOLUTION REGARDING GIRLS SPORTS. THE IRONY OF PRESENTING THIS RESOLUTION ON THE SAME NIGHT AS AN ANTI-BULLYING CAMPAIGN IS UNFORTUNATELY LOST ON MANY HERE IN THIS ROOM. THE ANTI-BULLYING CAMPAIGN LISTS TYPES OF BULLYING, AND THE STATEMENT READS, PURPOSEFULLY EXCLUDING SOMEONE FROM ACTIVITIES. AND YET WE ARE PRESENTING A RESOLUTION THAT SPECIFICALLY IS CREATED TO DO JUST THAT. EXCLUDE. I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A DIFFICULT, DIFFICULT DISCUSSION AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE IN THOUGHTFUL DIALOG. THE ISSUES I SEE WITH THE PROPOSED BAN, IT IS, BY OUR OWN DISTRICT'S DEFINITION, BULLYING. IT DOESN'T FOLLOW STATE LAW.

THERE'S NO PLAN ON HOW TO RESPOND TO STATE OR LAWSUITS. WHO DECIDES IF A STUDENT IS TRANS AND HOW DO THEY CONFIRM THIS? WILL THIS BECOME A SALEM WITCH TRIAL ESQUE ACCUSAL FORMAT? ARE WE ASKING STUDENTS TO PROVE BIRTH, GENDER, AND HOW? WHY IS THIS PRESENTED WITH ZERO PLANS FOR RESPONSE TO THESE QUESTIONS? PLEASE, NO MATTER WHERE YOU STAND ON THIS ISSUE, THIS PROPOSAL IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR OUR DISTRICT. THANK YOU. MISS MAY. OUR NEXT FOUR SPEAKERS PLEASE COME TO THE FRONT. DEBBIE GRANT, KELLY JOHNSON, ROB THORSON AND VICTORIA MICHAELS, AND MISS GRANT, YOU MAY APPROACH THE PODIUM. HELLO, MY NAME IS DEBBIE GRANT.

I'M GOING TO QUALIFY MYSELF AS A 20 YEAR RESIDENT OF PLACENTIA. MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED IN SEEKING THIS PARTICULAR SCHOOL DISTRICT. WE KNEW THAT THEY HAD GREAT SCHOOLS. THAT'S WHY WE MOVED HERE. WE HAVE TWO SONS WHO GRADUATED FROM PYLUSD AND ARE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR CHOSEN CAREERS. THREE YEARS AGO, WE BECAME THE CARETAKERS OF A TRANS GRANDSON WHO MOVED IN WITH US DUE TO THE BULLYING THAT HE RECEIVED IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. THEY ALSO COULD HAVE LOST THEIR FAMILY IF THEY WERE TO LOOK INTO ANY HORMONE REPLACEMENT NECESSARY IN ORDER TO RID HIM OF HIS SUICIDAL IDEOLOGIES. HE MOVED IN WITH US HIS FIRST YEAR. HE SPENT. OH, THAT WAS FAST.

THANK YOU, MISS GRANT. KELLY JOHNSON. HI. FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND BOYS ARE BOYS AND GIRLS ARE GIRLS. IN THE OLD DAYS, IF PEOPLE CAME, IF PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE ANOTHER SEX, THEY WOULD SEND THEM TO GET MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT. OKAY. WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT? WHAT HAPPENED TO SOCIETY? SOCIETY HAS CHANGED. HOWEVER, OUR MORAL STANDARDS SHOULD NOT BE CHANGING. SOMEONE MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT PARTICIPATING IN SCHOOL.

PARTICIPATING IN SCHOOL? THAT'S AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD. SPORTS IS FIELD. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUNDAMENTAL FAIRNESS. I'M ONE OF FIVE KIDS. I GREW UP BACK IN THE MIDWEST,

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I HAVE TWO STUDENTS IN HIGH SCHOOL AT YORBA LINDA HIGH SCHOOL. THEY BOTH PLAY SPORTS.

AND I REALIZED THAT MANY OF YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE UP YOUR MIND REGARDING THIS ISSUE OF ALLOWING BOYS TO PLAY ON GIRLS AND GIRLS SPORTS AND ALLOWING BOYS TO BE IN GIRLS BATHROOMS. I'M BEGGING YOU TO RECONSIDER. IT SHOULDN'T BE A POLITICAL ISSUE. IT'S COMMON SENSE. SUPPORTING TITLE NINE AND PROTECTING WOMEN'S SPORTS MEANS UPHOLDING THE PRINCIPLES OF EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AND ATHLETICS, AND ENSURING THAT GIRLS HAVE A FAIR CHANCE TO PARTICIPATE AND COMPETE IN SPORTS FREE FROM DISCRIMINATION. THIS ALSO INVOLVES ENSURING THAT FEMALE ATHLETES ARE PROTECTED FROM THE POTENTIAL RISK AND UNFAIR ADVANTAGES THAT COULD ARISE FROM ALLOWING BIOLOGICAL MALES TO COMPETE IN WOMEN'S SPORTS. BOYS AND GIRLS TEAMS TAKE AWAY POSITIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR GIRLS. WE HAVE A LEGAL AND ETHICAL RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT OUR GIRLS. PLEASE PROTECT AND KEEP BOYS OUT OF LOCKER ROOMS AND OUR GIRLS AND OUT OF OUR GIRLS.

SPORTS AND SUPPORT. TITLE NINE. THANK YOU, MR. PERSON. VICTORIA MICHAELS. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS VICTORIA MICHAELS. I'M NOT A PARENT, BUT I DO HAVE A PRECIOUS GODDAUGHTER. THE THOUGHT OF HER PLAYING SOCCER AND HAVING A BOY KNOCK HER DOWN SENDS SHIVERS THROUGH MY BODY. THE IDEA THAT YOU SHOULD BE PROTECTING STUDENTS AND NOT SUPPORTING TITLE NINE IS TOTALLY SHAMEFUL.

LET GIRLS BE GIRLS AND BOYS BE BOYS. YES, YES. THANK YOU, MISS MICHAELS. THE NEXT FOUR SPEAKERS, PLEASE APPROACH THE FRONT. SARAH PHILLIPS, PATRICIA OR PATRICIA, RATHER. I'M SORRY.

HANZO. DOCTOR. DAVID. ROMA AND STEPHANIE WADE. YOU'RE SARAH? YES, I'M SARAH PHILLIPS. I'M THE LIBRARIAN AT YORBA LINDA HIGH SCHOOL. BACK IN 2022, A RESOLUTION WAS PASSED ON A32 VOTE TO BAN CRT. AT BEST, IT WAS A CONFUSING AND CONTRADICTORY RESOLUTION THAT DIDN'T APPLY TO ALL STUDENTS. THE RESULT WAS A CHILLING EFFECT ON TEACHERS AND A LOSS OF CAL STATE FULLERTON STUDENT TEACHERS. PLEASE REVISIT THAT RESOLUTION AND CONSIDER DOING AWAY WITH IT. IT HAS DONE NOTHING TO IMPROVE THE EDUCATION OF ALL STUDENTS. ON THE RESOLUTION ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. EVERYONE SHOULD VOTE NO BECAUSE IT IS NOT IN A SCHOOL BOARD'S PURVIEW TO PLACE BANS ON TRANSGENDER GIRLS IN SPORTS. DOING SO IS ILLEGAL BY CALIFORNIA LAW. IT INVITES LAWSUITS AND REMOVAL OF GIRLS TEAMS FROM CIF. WHAT GIRLS SPORTS NEED IS EQUITY AND FUNDING AND ACCESS TO SPACE AND RESOURCES. FOCUS THEIR. THANK YOU, MISS PHILLIPS. PATRICIA HANSO. HELLO. THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER THINGS WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE THE FINANCIAL MISMANAGEMENT DURING LEANDRO BLAZE'S TERM AS PRESIDENT AND ALSO A SPRING OF 2024. PRIVATE JET TAKING BLADES, SURENESS AND BETH FISHER ON A TRIP TO SILICON VALLEY. THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE SHOULD BE INVESTIGATING AND LOOKING INTO. BUT SHE DOESN'T WANT US TALKING ABOUT THAT. TODAY, SHE IS PROPOSING A PRACTICE THAT MAY END UP BLOCKING MANY FEMALE STUDENTS, ALL FEMALE STUDENTS, FROM JOINING SOMETHING KIDS JUST WANT TO PLAY. LET THEM PLAY.

WHEN CHILDREN PLAY SPORTS, THEIR TEAMS, THEIR TEAMMATES MAY BE TALLER, HEAVIER, MORE MUSCULAR, EXPERIENCED AND EXPERIENCED. ITS DIVERSE. IT'S PART OF BEING ON A TEAM, ATTACKING THE MOST VULNERABLE IS DISGUSTING. WE WILL NOT BANISH A STUDENT FROM ANY ACTIVITY. WILL A CHILD'S BODY BE INSPECTED BY A DISTRICT EMPLOYEE? WILL A BODY WILL BE INSPECTED BY A COACH? WILL SCHOOL TEAMS FORFEIT GAMES IF THE OPPOSING TEAM HAS A GAY KID ON IT OR A TRANSGENDER PLAYER VOTE NO ON THIS. IT'S UNNECESSARY. DOCTOR DAVID RAMOS, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. BOARD.

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TAKE CARE OF OUR WOMEN. WE RESPECT THEM. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU DOCTOR. STEPHANIE WADE. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS STEPHANIE WADE. I'M CHAIR OF THE LAVENDER DEMOCRATS. I'M ALSO A PROUD FORMER MARINE INFANTRY OFFICER AND A VERY PROUD TRANSGENDER WOMAN. I CAME TO HERE TO SPEAK NOT FOR MYSELF, BUT ACTUALLY FOR A FRIEND WHO'S A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF PLACENTIA AND GRADUATED K K THROUGH 12 HERE IN PLACENTIA-YORBA LINDA SCHOOLS. SHE WAS AFRAID TO COME HERE AND SPEAK TONIGHT. SHE'S TRANSGENDER. IF SHE WAS AFRAID, SHE'S 30 YEARS OLD. THINK OF HOW TERRIFIED ALL THE KIDS WHO ARE TRANS IN THIS DISTRICT WHO AREN'T EVEN TRYING TO PLAY SPORTS. THEY'RE JUST TRANSGENDER KIDS THAT ARE TRYING TO GO ABOUT THEIR LIVES AND LIVE WITH DECENCY. AND THERE'S A WITCH HUNT GOING ON RIGHT OUT HERE. THIS NEEDS TO STOP. THANK YOU, MISTER WADE. THE NEXT FOUR SPEAKERS, SAMUEL PENROD, CATHY. MICHELLE. CARLA JONES, AND SONIA. I CAN'T QUITE READ THAT. I WANT TO SAY DHOLEWAL, I BELIEVE, I HOPE, I APOLOGIZE IF I DIDN'T GET THAT RIGHT. MR. PENROD. HI. GOOD EVENING, I'M SAMUEL PENROD. I'M A CITIZEN OF ORANGE COUNTY AND A TAXPAYER. I APPRECIATE THE DISTRICT'S EFFORTS TO PROMOTE STUDENT WELL-BEING THROUGH THE ANTI-BULLYING INITIATIVES. ABC, I LOVE THAT PRESENTATION.

HOWEVER, I FIND IT IRONIC THAT ON THIS VERY SAME AGENDA, THERE IS A PROPOSED POLICY TO BAN TRANSGENDER STUDENTS FROM PARTICIPATING IN SPORTS. ISN'T THAT THE SAME THING AS BULLYING? NO. THIS POLICY CONFLICTS WITH TITLE NINE. THIS POLICY CONFLICTS WITH TITLE NINE, CALIFORNIA EDUCATION CODE AND THE DISTRICT'S OWN BYLAWS, ALL OF WHICH PROTECT STUDENTS FROM DISCRIMINATION BASED ON GENDER IDENTITY. IMPLEMENTING SUCH A POLICY WOULD BE WOULD LEAD TO COSTLY LEGAL BATTLES. CHINO UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT, FOR INSTANCE, HAD TO PAY $1.2 MILLION. ISN'T IT ENOUGH? THANK YOU, MR. PENROD. CATHY. SUE, SHELL, PLEASE. CATHY, APPROACH THE PODIUM. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CATHY SATCHELL. AS OF JUNE, I'LL BE A 50 YEAR RESIDENT OF YORBA LINDA. I SPOKE LAST YEAR AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND BOY, HAVE THINGS CHANGED HERE IN THIS DISTRICT SINCE THAT TIME. WE NOW ARE TALKING ABOUT GIRL BOYS AND WOMEN'S SPORTS. I DON'T KNOW IF MANY OF YOU ARE AWARE THAT I HAVE SEEN AND IT'S NOT FAKE NEWS. IF THIS DISTRICT GOES TO WOMEN AND MEN'S SPORTS TOGETHER, YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE YOUR FUNDING FROM DONALD TRUMP, THE NEW PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. SO I HOPE YOU HAVE A LOT OF MONEY IN YOUR RESERVE ACCOUNT. YEAH. THANK YOU, MISS CARLA JONES. HI, I'M CARLA JONES. I'M READING THIS LETTER ON BEHALF OF AN 18 YEAR SPEECH LANGUAGE PATHOLOGIST IN PILL, WHO HAS MENTORED NUMEROUS GRADUATE INTERNS. THEY ARE WRITING TO SHARE CONCERN REGARDING THE DISTRICT'S RECENT LOSS WITH UNIVERSITY SPEECH LANGUAGE PATHOLOGY PROGRAMS SUCH AS USC, CHAPMAN UNIVERSITY AND CAL STATE FULLERTON. RECENTLY, THEY WERE INFORMED BY THE DIRECTOR OF USC'S SLP PROGRAM THAT THE UNIVERSITY HAS CHOSEN NOT TO RENEW ITS INTERNSHIP AGREEMENT WITH OUR DISTRICT. THIS DECISION WAS INFLUENCED BY CONCERNS ABOUT THE CURRENT POLITICAL CLIMATE AND PERCEIVED VALUES OF OUR SCHOOL BOARD AND LEADERSHIP. THEY ARE. THERE IS ALREADY AN ONGOING SHORTAGE OF QUALIFIED SLPS IN OUR DISTRICT, WHICH HAS NECESSITATED THE USE OF CONTRACTED PERSONNEL TO MEET STUDENT NEEDS. OUR PAST PARTNERSHIPS WITH THESE

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AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, THE DETAILS HAVE NOT BEEN MADE PUBLIC AS TO HOW A FEMALE ATHLETES GENDER WILL BE CONFIRMED. WILL IT BE THE GENDER ASSIGNED AT BIRTH? THAT SOUNDS SIMPLE ENOUGH, RIGHT? WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE GENETIC ANOMALIES WHOSE GENETIC MAKEUP DOES NOT MATCH THEIR PHENOTYPIC GENDER? ONE SUCH CONDITION IS CALLED KLINEFELTER SYNDROME, IN WHICH PEOPLE ARE BORN WITH TWO X CHROMOSOMES AND ONE Y CHROMOSOME. WHILE THEY ARE GENERALLY CONSIDERED MALE, SOME OF THEM DEVELOP BREASTS AND SOME OF THEM DON'T DEVELOP TESTES.

WOULD YOU DEFINE THAT PERSON AS A MALE OR A FEMALE? WHO IS GOING TO BE THE ONE TO DECIDE THAT, AND WHAT ARE THEIR QUALIFICATIONS? DID YOU CONSULT ANY PHYSICIANS ON THIS? MY POINT IS THAT THERE IS A LOT OF NUANCE TO THIS, AND A BLANKET BAN IS NOT THE ANSWER. MY OTHER MAJOR CONCERN IS HOW THIS WILL EMPOWER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO CALL OUT STUDENTS WHO THEY THINK HAVE MALE FEATURES, AND I WORRY FOR ALL FEMALE ATHLETES IN THAT SITUATION. THANK YOU, DOCTOR DEL. NEXT FOUR SPEAKERS PHIL M. REGAN ROTHERY. JOAN HERRICK. AND SHAWNEE MURRAY. PHIL M YES, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. I HAVE A LOT OF EMPATHY FOR THE LGBT COMMUNITY. MY SON IS GAY IN YORBA LINDA. HIGH SCHOOL WAS NOT ALWAYS EASY BECAUSE OF THAT FOR HIM. HAVING SAID THAT, I ALSO HAD FOUR DAUGHTERS WHO WERE ATHLETES AT YORBA LINDA HIGH SCHOOL. IN FACT, ONE OF THEM SAID IN HELD FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, THE TRIPLE JUMP AND THE LONG JUMP RECORD AT YORBA LINDA HIGH SCHOOL AND FOR HER LEAGUE, I DON'T ENVY YOU IN THE VOTE IN FRONT OF YOU, BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY. AND IT SEEMS TO BE A VERY EMOTIONALLY CHARGED ISSUE ON BOTH SIDES, FRANKLY, TITLE NINE WAS CREATED BECAUSE THERE WAS A RECOGNITION THAT MEN, BIOLOGICAL MEN, HAVE AN INHERENT AND SOMETIMES DANGEROUS ADVANTAGE OVER WOMEN ATHLETES. I'M URGING YOU TO CONSIDER THAT BECAUSE IT'S STILL TRUE TODAY, AND WE FIND THAT MORE AND MORE EVERY DAY. AND I'M URGING YOU TO PROTECT WOMEN'S SPORTS IN PYLUSD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. M REGAN. MY NAME IS REGAN ROTHERY, AND I'VE BEEN A PARENT IN THIS DISTRICT SINCE 2008. MY OLDEST SON GRADUATED IN 2020 FROM ESPERANZA HIGH SCHOOL. WHEN HE WAS IN JUNIOR HIGH, HE HAD A FRIEND, ANOTHER PYLUSD STUDENT WHO CAME OUT AS TRANS. MY SON WAS IN SEVENTH GRADE IN 2015 AND SAID THAT THE SCHOOL WAS MAKING ALL NECESSARY ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THIS TRANS STUDENT. THAT WAS TEN YEARS AGO. THIS DISTRICT WAS ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT STUDENT AND EVERY OTHER STUDENT IN THE MEANTIME. BUT SOMEHOW NOW IT'S AN ISSUE WHEN THIS DISTRICT FACES A $12 MILLION BUDGET SHORTFALL USHERED IN BY THE GRATUITOUS OVERSPEND FROM OUR PREVIOUS SUPERINTENDENT AND TWO MEMBERS OF THIS CURRENT BOARD. TRANS STUDENTS ARE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. THEY MAY BE DIFFERENT FROM YOU, BUT THEY ARE NOT UNWORTHY OF DIGNITY, RESPECT AND THE PROTECTIONS CONFERRED BY CALIFORNIA STATE LAW AND ED CODE. TRANS ATHLETES DID NOT LEAD TO OUR $12 MILLION BUDGET SHORTFALL. PLEASE VOTE NO ON RESOLUTION 2423. THANK YOU, MR. ROTHERY. JOAN HERRICK HI, I'M JOAN HERRICK. AT THE LAST MEETING, WE HEARD THAT THERE WERE ADULTS, INCLUDING A BOARD MEMBER WHO HAD STALKED AND HARASSED A TRANS ATHLETE FROM ANOTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT. BUT I WAS TOUCHED WHEN I HEARD FROM THE MOTHER AND THE ATHLETE HERSELF. HER TEAM MEMBERS LOVE, SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGE HER. THEY WERE THEY WANTED TO HAVE HER ON. THEY WANTED TO HAVE HER ON THE TEAM. THEY ASSURE HER THAT SHE BELONGS. THEY FEEL SAFE. ABOVE ALL, THEY ARE FRIENDS. SO MY MESSAGE IS ABOUT FRIENDSHIP.

FRIENDSHIPS CROSS THE LINE OF RACE, NATIONALITY, RELIGION, GENDER, AGE, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, ABILITIES OR DISABILITIES, ECONOMIC AND CITIZENSHIP STATUS. THAT IS A LIFE LESSON THAT I'VE LEARNED OVER MY MANY YEARS. I HAVE COME TO VALUE THE DIVERSE GROUP OF COLLEAGUES, NEIGHBORS,

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FOUR. I BELIEVE OWENS. AND PAM. NO LAST NAME. STEVE. PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. THANK YOU.

HELLO, MY NAME IS COACH STEVE. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN COMPETITIVE SPORTS FOR OVER 50 YEARS. I'VE TRAINED ATHLETES FOR MORE THAN 35 YEARS. THERE'S A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE IN COMPETITIVE SKILL LEVELS BETWEEN BIOLOGICAL MALES AND FEMALES. THIS DIFFERENCE IS CONSISTENT ACROSS EVERY EVERY SPORT. IF YOU GO TO CHATGPT AND ASK THE QUESTION, WHAT IS THE FASTEST 100 METER TIME RUN BY A FEMALE? WHERE DOES IT RANK AMONG MALES? YOU WILL FIND THAT IT'S 15 HUNDREDTH PLACE AMONG MEN, INCLUDING HIGH SCHOOL BOYS. ALSO TRY THE LONG JUMP, HIGH JUMP, 400 METER SHOT PUT HURDLES, ETC. THE SAME PATTERN APPEARS ACROSS EVERY TRACK AND FIELD EVENT. TOP FEMALE ATHLETES CONSISTENTLY FALL OVER 1000 PLACES BEHIND THEIR MALE COUNTERPARTS. TITLE NINE ALLOWS SCHOOLS TO SEPARATE TEAMS AND CATEGORIES BASED ON SEX AND COMPETITIVE SKILLS, EITHER TWO QUALIFYING STANDARDS WE'VE JUST ESTABLISHED WITH REAL DATA AND LIVED EXPERIENCE THAT THE COMPETITIVE SKILL LEVEL DIFFERENCE IS OVERWHELMING. SO BY TITLE NINE'S OWN DEFINITION, IT'S NOT ONLY APPROPRIATE, BUT NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN SEPARATE CATEGORIES FOR BIOLOGICAL FEMALES. WITHOUT THE SEPARATION, GIRLS LOSE SCHOLARSHIPS, SPONSORSHIP VICTORIES, RECORDS AND OPPORTUNITIES. THANK YOU, MR. TURN. MISS CHAPPELLE. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M A VOLUNTEER IN THE YORBA LINDA HIGH SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND I HAVE WITNESSED EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY AT ONE OF OUR REGIONAL EVENTS WE JUST HAD, I WAS ABLE TO WATCH A BIOLOGICAL BOY COMPETE AGAINST BIOLOGICAL GIRLS, AND HE JUMPED 11FT MORE THAN MOST OF THE GIRLS IN THAT CATEGORY. THERE WERE 19 GIRLS COMPETING, AND THIS BIOLOGICAL BOY GOT THE MEDAL OVER THE GIRLS BECAUSE HE JUMPED 11FT TO 11. WELL, 3 TO 11FT MORE THAN MOST OF THE GIRLS IN THAT CATEGORY. LAST YEAR HE COMPETED AGAINST THE BIOLOGICAL BOYS. HE CAME IN 15TH PLACE. THIS YEAR HE WON. SO WE WILL BE HOLDING AN EVENT WHERE HE'LL BE THERE AGAIN THIS WEEK COMING UP. SO I KNOW WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, BUT AND I DO HAVE COMPASSION FOR THE LGBTQ FAMILIES. BUT I UNDERSTAND TOO, THAT WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE GIRLS AND SCHOLARSHIPS AND THINGS THAT ARE FOR THEM. I'M A GRANDPARENT OUT THERE WORKING AND HELPING IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND I GET TO SEE THIS EVERY DAY. COME OUT AND WATCH THE SPORTS AND YOU'LL SEE THE DIFFERENCE. THANK YOU, MR. FAYE OWENS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT BACK IN THE DAYS WHEN I WAS COMPETING TO, I WANTED TO JOIN THE MALE FLAG FOOTBALL IN MY JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL, AND I HAD TO DO A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO LET THEM ALLOW ME TO PLAY.

AND THAT WAS BACK YEARS AGO. AND NOW I FEEL LIKE THE GIRLS THAT ARE COMPETING IN SPORTS, THEY NEED TO COMPETE WITH ONE WITH EACH OTHER AND NOT HAVE TO BE FEEL LIKE THEY'RE INTIMIDATED BY A MALE WITHIN THEIR THEIR TEAMMATES. I JUST WANT YOU TO CONSIDER THE SAFETY OF OUR GIRLS, THE PRIVACY OF THEM AND OUR LOCKER ROOMS, AND THAT JUST FOR THEM TO BE FEEL SAFE, I

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WELL, GUN. OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. AND MRS. WINGER. OKAY. GAY TO PERRY, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. HI. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BOYS AND GIRLS. IT'S VERY OBVIOUS. AND THE DIFFERENCE GAP INCREASES THROUGH PUBERTY. MALES HAVE 20 TIMES MORE TESTOSTERONE THAN FEMALES. THEY HAVE MORE BODY MASS, MORE STRENGTH, AND MORE SPEED. EVEN WHEN THEY ARE PUT ON HORMONES TO TRANSITION, THE BIOLOGICAL MALES STILL HAVE A PHYSIOLOGICAL ADVANTAGE OVER THE GIRLS. THE TRANS PEOPLE MAKE UP 0.5% OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC, AND TRAINED TRANS ATHLETES ARE EVEN A MUCH SMALLER PERCENTAGE OF THAT. THANK YOU FOR THE ANTI-BULLYING CAMPAIGN. BUT THERE IS A COGNITIVE DISSONANCE HERE. YOU ADDRESS PROMOTING A FEELING OF SAFETY AND SUPPORT AND RESTORING DIGNITY, BUT ALLOWING TRANS PEOPLE INTO GIRLS AND WOMEN'S SPORTS STRIPS. SO MUCH OF THAT FROM THE GIRLS AND THE WOMEN. THIS WILL INTIMIDATE THEM FROM SPORTS VOTE. THANK YOU.

PROTECTING THE WOMEN'S SPORTS. THANK YOU PATTY. PLEASE. PATTY. ALL I KEEP HEARING IS A LOT OF EMPATHY FOR THE TRANS STUDENT, BUT I DON'T HEAR ANY FOR BIOLOGICAL GIRLS THAT ARE HERE.

I KEEP HEARING PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT A TRANS STUDENT WHO CAME TO THE PREVIOUS MEETING, A TRANS STUDENT WHO IS NOW THIRD IN THE COUNTRY IN HIS DIVISION, THE SAME STUDENT WHO WILL BE COMPETING AGAINST THE STUDENTS THAT ARE HERE IN YORBA LINDA. SO IT IS YOUR PROBLEM, I GUESS, IF THAT'S HOW YOU WANT TO SAY IT OR WORD IT, YOU HAVE TO BE CONCERNED BECAUSE NOW THE GIRLS THAT ARE HERE IN YOUR DISTRICT WILL BE AFFECTED BY A BIOLOGICAL BOY COMPETING AGAINST THEM. AND AS YOU CAN HEAR, THIS BOY HAS A BIG ADVANTAGE. SO HOW MANY GIRLS FROM YORBA LINDA WILL LOSE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WIN? HOW MANY GIRLS FROM YORBA LINDA WILL LOSE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT PERHAPS MIGHT OPEN UP TO THEM? IF A STUDENT IS NOT PARTICIPATING, WHICH IS A BIOLOGICAL BOY? AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT UP BULLYING, BECAUSE BIOLOGICAL GIRLS GET BULLIED ALL THE TIME WHEN THEY SAY THAT THEY JUST WANT TO PLAY WITH BIOLOGICAL GIRLS, THAT'S NOT OKAY EITHER.

YEAH. THANK YOU, MISS GOODBODY. MR. GUN ED GUN. HELLO. GUN. 47 YEAR RESIDENT OF YORBA LINDA. I WENT THROUGH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. I SUPPORT THE PROTECT GIRLS RESOLUTION. BULLYING IS HAVING PHYSICAL POWER OVER ANOTHER AND USING IT. AND ESPECIALLY ON THE SPORTS FIELD.

I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT GIRLS IN THEIR SPORTS PROGRAMS. AND ANYONE WITH A TWIG AND BERRIES BE KEPT IN BOYS SPORTS. THERE IS NO WINNING WHEN BOYS BEAT UP ON GIRLS IN PHYSICAL SPORTS. PLEASE KEEP LADY BOYS OUT OF GIRLS SPORTS, BATHROOMS AND LOCKER ROOMS. COMMON SENSE. IF YOU HAVE

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MRS. WENGER. SO MANY OF US PARENTS WANT ACTION AND WE WANT IT TONIGHT IN FAVOR OF PASSING THE RESOLUTION. 2423 WE WANT OUR OUR GIRLS SAFE IN SPORTS. WE WANT THEM TO EXPERIENCE THE SAME JOY THAT SO MANY OF US MOMS EXPERIENCED AS A SCHOLAR ATHLETE AS WELL. I URGE YOU TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS TO KEEP THE INTEGRITY OF GIRLS SPORTS. THIS WOULD ALSO MAYBE I DON'T THINK THIS WAS MENTIONED TONIGHT, BUT A LOT OF OTHER POINTS I DO AGREE WITH. BUT IT ALSO WOULD KEEP THE INTEGRITY OF RECORDS AT SCHOOLS AS WELL IN THEIR SPECIFIC CATEGORY. IF IT'S A BOY OR A GIRL RECORD AT THEIR SCHOOLS, YOU DON'T WANT THAT JUST SHATTERED, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEONE ELSE COMES IN AND JUST OBLITERATES THAT WHO IS NOT THE SAME BIOLOGICAL SEX AS THEY ARE, RESPECTFULLY AND WITH CIVILITY. I SAY THAT THERE ARE MOST LIKELY OTHER RESOLUTIONS AND SOLUTIONS THAT MAY BE FORTHCOMING AS TO OPPORTUNITIES FOR TRANSGENDER ATHLETES TO COMPETE, WHEREAS JUST AS SAFE FOR THEM BUT DOESN'T INFRINGE ON SWINGER RIGHTS. THANK YOU. JENNY BREMER AND BEN STUBBS. MISS BRENNER, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. MR. STUBBS. YOU'LL BE NEXT. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION ON OUR ANTI-BULLYING EFFORTS. IT'S CLEAR THE DISTRICT WANTS EVERY STUDENT TO FEEL SAFE AND INCLUDED. THAT'S WHY I POSE THIS RESOLUTION TARGETING TRANS GIRLS IN SPORTS. IT VIOLATES CALIFORNIA LAW BANNING ALL OUR ATHLETES FROM CIF AND GOES AGAINST THE VALUES WE JUST DISCUSSED. STUDIES SHOW THAT 68% OF LGBTQ STUDENTS ALREADY FEEL UNSAFE AT SCHOOL, EVEN THOUGH NO TRANS GIRLS ARE CURRENTLY ON TEAMS HERE. SAY THAT AGAIN. NO TRANS GIRLS ARE CURRENTLY ON TEAMS HERE. THIS RESOLUTION SENDS A HARMFUL, EXCLUSIONARY MESSAGE. WE CAN'T FIGHT BULLYING WHILE ENDORSING IN POLICY. AND I LOOKING AT AND HEARING WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS BUILDING TODAY, I THINK THAT WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON THIS BULLYING AS ADULTS AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS PALMER. BEN STUBBS. HELLO.

GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. AND MY NAME IS BEN STUBBS, PARENT AND THE PYLUSD DISTRICT GOT A SON AND A DAUGHTER. AND FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, I RECALL A TIME WHEN I WENT TO MY FIRST BOXING MATCH WHEN I WAS 14 YEARS OLD, AND I WITNESSED THE SHEER POWER OF MALE VERSUS FEMALE, BECAUSE THE FIRST OPENING FIGHT WERE TWO FEMALES, AND THEY WERE PROBABLY ABOUT IN THE LIGHTWEIGHT CLASS, ABOUT FIVE SEVEN EACH. AND THEN THE NEXT FIGHT WAS THE FEATHERWEIGHT MALES AND THEY WERE ABOUT THERE WAS SHORT GUYS. THEY WERE LIKE FIVE, FOUR, FIVE, FIVE. AND BOY THE SHEER POWER, THE DIFFERENCE IN POWER WAS JUST LIKE DEMONSTRABLE LIKE SO YOU KNOW, FIRST, FIRST EYEWITNESS I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT EXPERIENCE. SO ANYWAY, GIRLS AND WOMEN, THEY'RE MORE SUSCEPTIBLE LIKE 3 TO 6 TIMES MORE TO INJURY WITH THEIR ACL. SO THEY DON'T NEED THAT EXACERBATED RISK COMPETING WITH BOYS BECAUSE IT'S JUST IT'S PHYSICS. THEY HAVE TO COMPETE FASTER, MOVE FASTER, MOVE HARDER. AND IT'S JUST GOING TO LEAD TO INJURIES. SO THIS IS JUST A COMMON SENSE THING. PLEASE VOTE YES ON THIS RESOLUTION. THANK YOU. YEAH THANK YOU MR. STUBBS. AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR COMMENTS. OKAY. AT THIS TIME WE ARE THANK YOU GUYS FOR STICKING WITH US AS WE MOVE ON. TO OUR GENERAL FUNCTIONS. AND. CAN WE DISCUSS

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AND I LIKE THE RAY AND ASSOCIATES, TOO, WHERE THERE'S A POTENTIAL OF HAVING THEM COME AND TALK AND DO THAT, LIKE NOT NECESSARILY THE TOWN HALL AND THE WAY THEY WERE DESCRIBING, BUT SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT WHERE WE CAN GET SOME FEEDBACK OUTSIDE OF JUST THE FIVE OF US. THE END. THE ONLY THING AND I SAID IT WHEN THEY WERE TALKING, I LOVE AND I HATE THAT WHOLE CONCEPT BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF A COOL IDEA. HOWEVER, IF YOU'RE GOING WITH LIKE THE CONFIDENTIALITY OF THE SEARCH, THAT BLOWS IT ALL OUT OF THE WATER AND THE LIKE, IT'S SCRIPTED QUESTIONS. YES. THEY SAID THEY COULD PULL SOME FROM THE SURVEY MONKEY THING, BUT I'M ON THE FENCE ON WHETHER THAT'S A GOOD IDEA OR NOT. I DON'T KNOW, BUT I REALLY LIKED IF I HAD TO LEAN TOWARDS ONE. THE MCPHERSON ONE SEEMS OF THOSE TWO, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU. IT'S FOR ME IT WAS EITHER RAY AND ASSOCIATES OR MCPHERSON, AND THEN THE TWO YEAR GUARANTEE, THE PRICE MATCH AND THE RETENTION AND THE REACH, I THINK, MADE MORE SENSE. BOTH OF THEM HAD THE ONE WAY INTERVIEW VIDEO ANSWERING AHEAD OF TIME SO THAT YOU GET THAT FIRST ROUND OF I LIKE THAT. I LIKE THAT TOO.

AND BOTH OF THEM HAD IT, I THINK, TOO, IF WE WENT WITH RAY AND ASSOCIATES, I THINK IF WE JUST SAID WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE TOWN HALL, LIKE MAYBE WHAT THEIR IDEA OF A TOWN HALL IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE THINK A TOWN HALL COULD BE. SO I THINK THAT IF WE DIDN'T WANT IT, WE COULD SAY LIKE, LET'S TRY SOMETHING ELSE. AND THEN THEY SAID THAT THEY COULD GO IN THE CONFIDENTIAL ROUTE. AND I THINK WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CONFIDENTIAL ROUTE, IT'S ABOUT IF WE HAVE EXISTING SUPERINTENDENTS THAT ARE IN A JOB AND THEY'RE APPLYING WITH US, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY KEEP THE NAMES CONFIDENTIAL. SO LIKE IF THEY DON'T GET THE JOB, IT DOESN'T UPSET THEIR DISTRICT OR THEIR BOARD OR THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT THEY HAVE THERE, BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, ARE TRYING FOR ANOTHER JOB. SO I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT PIECE IS IMPORTANT, JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST TO PROTECT THEIR JOBS THAT ARE IN PLACE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY SAID, ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENTS, DIRECTORS, ANYBODY THAT'S GOING FOR OTHER JOBS. A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF EXPECTED. BUT I BUT THE FACT THAT THAT IS AN OPTION WAS GOOD FOR ME TOO. I THINK WHAT WORRIES ME ABOUT MCPHERSON WAS KIND OF THEIR INTERVIEW PROCESS, WHERE THEY WERE LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, COORDINATE THE INTERVIEWS AND VISITATIONS.

WE'RE GOING TO TOUR THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE GOING TO MEET EDUCATIONAL PARTNERS. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S CONFIDENTIAL, AND THEN IT'S NOT. AND THAT'S WHAT WORRIES ME. WHAT I LIKED ABOUT THE KOSTKA GROUP IS THE TWO YEARS OF SUPPORT AND HELPING US MAKE PLANS AND MAKING SURE OUR SUPERINTENDENT AND THE BOARD IS SUPPORTED FOR TWO YEARS WITH GOVERNANCE, IT'S ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE PRICE. THE MENTOR SUPPORT. ALSO, THEY, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH A WORKBOOK WITH THE BOARD AND THE SUPERINTENDENT TO FIND POLICIES AND EXPECTATIONS AND, AND BUILD. SO THAT PART TO ME WAS REALLY APPEALING BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE GET A NEW SUPERINTENDENT AND IT'S ALL GOOD. AND THEN WE HAVE WE JUST NEVER FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE GOVERNANCE AND PULLING THROUGH THAT PART, AND THAT IS PART OF THEIR PRICE. I DID. I LIKED WHEN MARILYN SAID SHE

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I THOUGHT SHE WAS VERY SHARP. SHE WAS GREAT. I LIKED BOTH OF THEM. AND I DID LIKE THE WHOLE FACT THAT THEY DO KIND OF FOLLOW YOU FOR TWO YEARS. AND SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO SEARCHING FOR ANOTHER GOVERNANCE TEAM OR CONSULTANT OR BRING IN SOMETHING NEW. SHE'S KIND OF FOLLOWING THE WHOLE PROCESS, AND I THINK IT NOT ONLY HOLDS US ACCOUNTABLE, BUT IT COULD ALSO HOLD THE SUPERINTENDENT ACCOUNTABLE AS WELL. THAT'S RIGHT. THEY HAVE A TWO YEAR GUARANTEE AS WELL, DIDN'T THEY? YES, I LIKE THAT PIECE OF IT TOO. THE TWO YEAR FOLLOW UP AND HELPING US KICK START THE THAT PIECE OF IT, LIKE HOW WE COME TOGETHER. I THINK THAT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, WE SHOULD INCLUDE THAT. BUT THE FACT THAT IT'S PART OF IT AND IT'S PART OF THE PRICE IS BENEFICIAL. I, I THE MY MAIN CONCERN OF ANYTHING REALLY IS HAVING ENOUGH PEOPLE TO PULL FROM AND MAKING SURE THAT WE GET THE BEST CANDIDATE POSSIBLE. NOT THAT THEY HAVE MORE PEOPLE WORKING ON IT, THEY HAVE JUST MORE CONNECTIONS TO REACH POTENTIALLY MORE APPLICANTS THAT WOULD BE IDEAL FOR. BUT THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR 20 YEARS. IT'S JUST THEIR FOUNDER IS DECEASED. IT'S JUST A SMALLER COMPANY. I MEAN, SO I YOU KNOW, I DO THINK THE COSTCO AND THE RAIN ASSOCIATES AND I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF FOR MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN GO WRONG. BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT MCPHERSON? YEAH. OH, REALLY? YEAH. REALLY? OKAY, A LITTLE BIT. JUST LIKE. OKAY. I MEAN, BUT I'M OPEN TO ANY OF THEM BECAUSE I DIDN'T I DIDN'T, LIKE, SIT THERE AND I DIDN'T SIT THERE AND GO, OH MY GOSH, THIS IS ALL LIKE TERRIBLE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? OH YEAH. NO, I GET IT. IT WASN'T LIKE THAT FOR ME AT ALL. BUT I JUST THINK AND MAYBE IT WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE LAST. AND SO I REMEMBER THEM LAST, BUT I JUST FELT LIKE THERE WAS A LOT OF PASSION BECAUSE SHE'S JUST STARTING. AND I THINK SOMETIMES WHEN PEOPLE HAVE THAT PASSION AND LIKE SHE SAID, I DIDN'T REALLY THINK I'D EVER WANT TO BE IN THIS. BUT NOW I HAVE THE PASSION FOR PLACING THIS. AND SO SOMETIMES I THINK WHEN YOU HAVE THAT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, EVEN SHE'S DONE A COUPLE SEARCHES, BUT LIKE, SHE'S INTO IT AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO ESTABLISH YOURSELF AND YOU'RE REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, AND I LIKE THAT SHE WAS JUST A SUPERINTENDENT TWO YEARS AGO. YEAH. AND SHE HAS BEEN ALL THROUGHOUT, YOU KNOW, THE STATE IN DIFFERENT AREAS. SO SHE'S MADE A LOT OF CONNECTIONS. YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT. TRICIA. WHAT DO YOU THINK I WAS GOING TO I WAS WAITING TO JUMP RIGHT IN. WHAT DO YOU THINK? I ACTUALLY LIKED EDUCATIONAL LEADERSHIP SERVICES. OF COURSE. I JUST LIKE THE THAT THEY STRESS THE STUDENT COMPONENT ON IT AS WELL. I LIKED THAT PART AND THE MENTORSHIP WAS THERE AS WELL IN THE FEE, THE 100 DAY PLAN I REALLY LIKED AS WELL. AND I DID LIKE I DID LIKE MCPHERSON AS WELL. YEAH, I'M JUST THE SAME THING. IT'S JUST NOT AS PERSONALLY. YES, THE PRESENTATION WAS GREAT. I'M JUST NOT 100% BOUGHT INTO LIKE ONLY DONE, YOU KNOW, TWO SEARCHES OR SOMETHING. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, I THINK I LEARNED A LITTLE BIT MORE JUST. YEAH. NO, NO, NO, I AGREE, BUT SHE WOULD BE ONE OF THE CONSULTANTS THAT WOULD BE WORKING WITH US. SO THAT'S MY ONLY HESITATION. YEAH. SO YEAH THE TWO BUT THAT'S MY ONLY HESITATION ON THAT IS JUST I DON'T KNOW. BUT I DO THINK THAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE HER TWO.

BUT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER TOO THAT COSTCO HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 20 YEARS. AND SO THEY ARE KNOWN.

AND YOU DID SAY THAT THEY ARE VERY WELL KNOWN. RIGHT. OKAY. AND THEY HAVE. YEAH, THEY ARE.

AND I BELIEVE THEIR PACKET HAS A NUMBER OF RECENT PLACEMENTS AS WELL. OKAY. I DON'T YOU KNOW, I THINK WITH. SHE, SHE JUST, YOU KNOW, HER PASSION AND HER STOOD OUT TO ME. AND THEN THE TWO YEAR THING BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF OUR ISSUES IS THE WE NEED SOME POLICY. WE NEED SOME GOVERNANCE WORK. WE NEED SOME OF THESE THINGS. AND SO HAVING SOMEONE TO KEEP US ACCOUNTABLE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ALSO KEEPING A SUPERINTENDENT ACCOUNTABLE AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S FOLLOW THROUGH, I THINK IS A GOOD THING. BUT LIKE YOU GUYS SAID TO A COUPLE OF THE OTHER ONES, OFFER IT. SO AND THEN SHE WOULD EDUCATIONAL LEADER SERVICES.

THEY ALSO HAVE A VARIETY OF PEOPLE ON LIKE BOARD MEMBER SUPERINTENDENTS, YOU KNOW, LIKE THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT POSITIONS THAT THEY GET INPUT FROM IN THEIR TEAM. SO MY ONLY DOWNFALL WITH EDUCATION, LEADERSHIP, WHY I DIDN'T CHOOSE THEM IS THEY'RE $10,000 MORE.

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THERE'S NO GOVERNANCE, THERE'S NO PUTTING. LIKE MCPHERSON. I LIKE THEM BECAUSE THEY HAD HELPING US PUT TOGETHER THE CONTRACT WITH IMPLEMENTING THE GOALS FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT. SO EVERYTHING IS VERY CLEAR. SO YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF MY SECOND CHOICE. THAT'S WHAT I'M KIND OF LOOKING FOR. I'M LOOKING FOR US NOT ONLY TO, YOU KNOW, HIRE AN AMAZING SUPERINTENDENT TO LEAD OUR DISTRICT, BUT THEN TO HELP US COME TOGETHER AS A NEW BOARD. AND THEY WERE THE NATIONAL FIRM TOO, AS WELL, RIGHT, COSTCO? NO, NO. OH, MCPHERSON WAS NATIONAL. WELL, ANOTHER THING THAT THE COSTCO WAS NATIONAL. THEY SAID YEAH, THEY MOSTLY FOCUS ON COSTCO WAS CALIFORNIA. YEAH.

THEY SAID THEY DO NOW. THEY DO NATIONAL, BUT THEY'RE MOSTLY I THINK THEY ALL SAID THE ONE THING THAT MCPHERSON SAID WHEN WE WERE HE WAS TALKING, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, AND I APPRECIATED IT.

HE SAID, WE ALL ADVERTISE THE SAME PLACE. I'M NOT GOING TO BORE YOU WITH TRYING TO SELL YOU ON ADVERTISING. WE ALL ADVERTISE THE SAME PLACE. SO LET'S JUST MOVE ON TO WHAT WE DO. AND THEY WENT INTO THE PROXY THING AND LIKE THERE WERE SEVERAL THINGS THAT HE SAID THAT I THINK SET HIM APART. SO I WOULD SAY IF I'M NARROWING IT DOWN BASED ON WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY, EITHER COSTCO OR MCPHERSON SEEM LIKE A PRETTY, FAIRLY EVENLY MATCHED SITUATION. ALLEN, WOULD YOU HAVE A INSIGHT ON EITHER I MEAN CARRY LIKE RAIN ASSOCIATES? I LIKE THEM TOO. I MEAN, WHAT WAS ARE THEY COMPARABLE TO DO YOU A TWO YEAR? IF THEY DON'T THEN I THINK THEN I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THERE, I DIDN'T I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING AND THAT'S KIND OF A BIG DEAL WITH THE SITUATION WE'VE HAD. I THINK IT'S A NICE BONUS THEY DON'T HAVE A TRANSITION PLAN. YEAH. YEAH. THEN I WOULD SAY THAT I'M I'M COMFORTABLE PUTTING IT BETWEEN MCPHERSON AND THE COSTCO GROUP. ALLEN. YEAH. AND RESPECTFULLY, I'M CERTAINLY NOT JOINED IN THE DISCUSSION, BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF SOMETHING AS A SUPERINTENDENT, TYPICALLY, THE A COACH WILL BE IN THE SUPERINTENDENT'S CONTRACT AND USUALLY THE SUPERINTENDENT CHOOSES WHO THEIR COACH IS AS OPPOSED TO IF IT'S IF THE COMPANY IS, WHICH THEY ALL DO, PRETTY MUCH THEY WOULD. THEY'D LOVE TO CONTINUE ON AND COACH AND HOPEFULLY CONTINUE WITH THOSE CONTRACTS ON AND ON. BUT MOST SUPERINTENDENTS INCLUDE MYSELF. I WOULD PREFER TO. PICK MY COACH. SO IS THIS IS THIS A COACHING A SUPERINTENDENT, OR IS THIS HELPING THE BOARD WITH GOVERNANCE? AND LIKE THE WORKING TOGETHER ASPECT? WELL USUALLY USUALLY THEY'RE SEPARATE. SOMETIMES THEY'RE DONE TOGETHER. SOMETIMES THE SAME PERSON WILL DO BOTH COACHING AND GOVERNANCE WORK. IN FACT, ONE OF COSTCO'S RECENT PLACEMENTS IN ROSEMEAD, I DO BOTH. BOTH OF THOSE SAME THING IN SOME OTHER DISTRICTS, SO THAT'S NOT UNCOMMON. BUT THEN THEN THE QUESTION IS WHO WILL DO THE SUPERINTENDENT EVALUATION? BECAUSE AT SOME POINT THOSE USUALLY HAVE TO BE SEPARATED. BUT I JUST THE POINT I JUST WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION IS ON THE COACHING PIECE. YOU STILL WOULD WANT THE SUPERINTENDENT TO AT LEAST HAVE A VOICE, AND IT MAY VERY WELL BE THAT THEY'RE HAPPY WITH SOMEONE WITHIN THAT GROUP, BUT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A VOICE ON WHO THE COACH IS, WHICH IS I UNDERSTAND THAT, YEAH, I GET THAT TOO. AND I THINK TOO, WITH THE PRICE OF BOTH OF THEM, IF IT'S IN THE SAME COST. AND SO IF WE LIKED THEM AND WE WANTED TO USE THEM FOR BOARD GOVERNANCE, BUT WE WANT TO LET THE SUPERINTENDENT CHOOSE HIS OWN COACH OR HER OWN COACH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE FINE. JUST BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, COSTCO HAS THE TWO YEARS COACH AND MCPHERSON HAS THE WORK WITH THE BOARD TO GENERATE. WHERE WAS IT? I JUST HAD IT HERE. 2 TO 3 PERFORMANCE OBJECTIVES FOR THE BOARD, WHICH I THINK IS FABULOUS BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN ALREADY HAVE JUST THOSE THREE GOALS THAT YOU CAN START TO BUILD INTO WHAT THAT REVIEW AND EVALUATION IS GOING TO BE THE NEXT YEAR. BUT YOU'RE ALREADY GETTING A START ON WHAT THOSE POTENTIALLY COULD BE, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE OUTSIDE OF LIKE A REGULAR LCAP TIMELINE AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO BUILDING THAT IN WOULD BE IMPORTANT, AND THOSE ARE HARD FOR US TO DO AS A TEAM. IT'S ALSO HARD FOR SUPERINTENDENT COMING INTO THAT. I THINK HAVING SOMEBODY GUIDE US THROUGH THOSE FIRST 3 OR 4 GOALS WOULD BE HELPFUL. AND JUST AS A GENERAL QUESTION, I'M ASSUMING THAT ALL THESE FOUR COMPANIES HAVE BEEN

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THEY ARE ALL WELL ESTABLISHED FIRMS THAT DO THIS BUSINESS. SO TO MY TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NONE OF THEM HAVE ANY EXISTING LITIGATION THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY IMPACT A SEARCH. BUT I CAN'T SPEAK DEFINITIVELY TO THAT. SOMETHING ELSE THAT I'M JUST READING AS I'M GOING THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AGAIN FOR COSTCO, THEY MADE THE STATEMENT AND I DON'T REMEMBER IF MCPHERSON DID THAT. THEY WILL NOT. A SELECTED SUPERINTENDENT WILL NOT BE RECRUITED, MEANING WE ARE NOT GOING TO PULL IN PLACE IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE PLAY SOMEBODY WITH YOU, THEY'VE JUST STATED, I MEAN, THE OBVIOUS ETHIC WOULD BE YOU WOULDN'T DO THAT, BUT THEY STATED IT. I LIKE THAT THAT'S AN UPFRONT. I'M TORN ON THAT, BECAUSE IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT WE HAVE, WE SPECIFICALLY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN ASKING AND MAYBE NOT THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT IF THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR LIKE 5 OR 6 YEARS AND WE HAVE A SPECIFIC ASK TO LIKE, WILL YOU PLEASE REACH OUT TO THEM AND SEE IF THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN APPLYING? I WOULD WANT THEM TO DO THAT, AND THEN IT WOULD BE ON THAT OTHER PERSON. IF IT'S A DIRECT ASK BECAUSE OF SOMETHING SPECIFIC, NOT GENERAL. YEAH, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PLACE THEM. NO.

YEAH. SO COULD WE HAVE A THIRD PARTY. COULD WE HAVE A THIRD PARTY POSE THAT QUESTION. WE COULD GET AROUND IT ALSO THAT YOU AS A BOARD COULD SAY HOW YOU WANT THIS TO GO. RIGHT. NO IT'S UP. SO YEAH. NO. ABSOLUTELY I REALLY LIKED YOU KNOW LIKE THE WEEKLY UPDATES, YOU KNOW, MAKE WHAT I APPRECIATE ABOUT ALL THESE FIRMS WAS IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD SETTING THE STANDARDS, YOU KNOW, CHOOSING THE GROUPS THAT WE'D SPEAK TO, YOU KNOW, SETTING THE TIMELINES.

AND IT WAS THE ENTIRE BOARD AND, AND, AND THE UP TO DATE. SO I FELT LIKE I, I DON'T THINK WE COULD LOSE WITH EITHER FIRM BETWEEN COSTCO AND MCPHERSON. YEAH. YEAH. AND THEN IN MY NOTES, IT SAYS HERE THAT MCPHERSON WON'T MOVE PEOPLE. HE STATED THAT TO. OKAY. YEAH. WELL DARN IT. SO I DON'T HAVE THAT ON MY NOTES FOR WHAT ABOUT TIMELINES BETWEEN THE TWO? THEY BOTH WERE CLOSELY ALIGNED. YEAH. AND THEY BOTH PRETTY MUCH SAID THAT IT WAS UP TO US TO OUR TIMELINE TIMELINE, AND NEITHER RECOMMENDED WE DO IT FAST. RIGHT. WHICH IS GOOD. AND THEY COULD GO FAST LIKE THEY SAID, THEY DID A FAST ONE. BUT YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T. YEAH, BUT THEY DID IT IN THE SPRING. LIKE I UNDERSTAND MAYBE TRYING TO DO THAT IN THE SPRING, DOING THAT OVER SUMMER. WE'VE ALREADY LOST. YEAH WE'VE WE'RE PAST THAT. RIGHT. AND IT WAS AN INSIDE CANDIDATE THAT WAS PLACED. IT WAS THE EXISTING DEPUTY. OKAY. YEAH. WHAT I THIS IS JUST MY THOUGHT, BUT I REALLY WOULD LOVE TO DO ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY FEEDBACK BEFORE SCHOOL GETS OUT.

AND WITH JUST BEING 100% EXCLUSIVE WITH COSTCO, I THINK THERE'S A BETTER CHANCE IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE MORE SPREAD OUT AND HAVE MULTIPLE SEARCHES, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SPEND POTENTIALLY. SORRY, THERE'S ONLY TWO PEOPLE DOING ALL THOSE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS THOUGH, RIGHT? WHERE ARE THE OTHER ONES? WERE LIKE TYPICALLY THAT WAY IT'S VERY NORMAL. MAYBE THREE I THOUGHT THE OTHER ONE SAID MCPHERSON HAS THREE MORE PEOPLE TO HELP WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS. YEAH, I THINK THAT THE SEARCH FOR THE FOUR. YEAH, I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER ONES THAT THEY WOULD, WOULD DEPEND IF THEY HAD A VERY TIGHT TIMELINE, THEY WOULD RECRUIT ADDITIONAL SUPPORTS. YEAH. BUT NORMALLY IT'S TWO. YEAH. YEAH. BUT BUT IT WOULD BE HARD TO DO IN A IN IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. YEAH. AND ESPECIALLY AT THE END OF THE YEAR I THINK IT'S GONNA BE ROUGH REGARDLESS. I THINK WE SHOULD TRY, BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HOLD IT TO THAT. I THINK WE SHOULD TRY AND THEN WE CONTINUE WORKING ON THAT. AND IF WE DON'T GET THE FEEDBACK WE WANT, WE WAIT. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, I AM I AM ALL FOR THAT. YEAH. OKAY. SO WE GOT DOWN TO TWO.

GREAT. FLIP A COIN. KIDDING. NOBODY LAUGHED. ALL RIGHT I MEAN I LIKE I SAID, I LIKE I MEAN I DO LIKE COSTCO. SHE'S CLOSER I MEAN YEAH SHE'S SHE'S CLOSER AND BUT I MEAN I LIKE I SAID I DON'T THINK WE CAN GO WRONG. SHE WAS REALLY ENTHUSIASTIC. SHE WAS HERE. RIGHT. WE HAVE TO LOOK DOWN AT THE ACTUAL PROPOSALS. NOT SO MUCH PERSONAL UNFORTUNATELY. NO, NO, NO, BUT BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THEM FOR THIS ENTIRE PERIOD. I AGREE, BUT EVEN IF SOMEBODY CAN GET THE JOB DONE, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT, IT WASN'T THE BEST PRESENTATION. OR LIKE IF IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN TO WHAT WE NEED AND GETTING IT DONE, THEN. SO MAYBE TOP 1 OR 2,

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THANK YOU. YOU I'M MCPHERSON THEN COSTCO. CAN I DO BLAST? SURE. OH, WOW. AWESOME I AM, I AM COSTCO, THEN MCPHERSON. AND MCPHERSON, THEN COSTCO. OH COME ON CARRY. YOU WANTED TO BE LAST.

YOU DID THAT ON PURPOSE. YOU LAST. WHY DID I GO LAST? YOU ASKED FOR THIS. I DID JUST TO LIKE, DOT OUR I'S AND CROSS OUR T'S. I'LL SAY, RAY, EVEN IF WE DECIDE TO HIRE SOMEONE RIGHT NOW, AFFIRM. AND LIKE, IF SOMETHING DOES COME UP THAT WE KIND OF LIKE, SEE IN THEIR BACKGROUND OR SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T QUITE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH, CAN WE GO TO THE SECOND CHOICE, OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT? WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IT TONIGHT. IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COMES UP, WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO CIRCLE BACK ASAP. THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING. PROCEDURALLY, IF WE CHOOSE ONE OF THESE GROUPS, DO WE SIGN THE CONTRACT? ARE WE APPROVING THE CONTRACT TONIGHT OR DO THEY COME BACK AND BRING A CONTRACT APPOINTING THEM? WE'RE APPOINTING THEM. SO I ASSUME WE'RE SIGNING CONTRACTS. ROBINSON SHAKING HIS HEAD. NO, THAT YEAH, THAT WOULD BE EXPECTED. BUT THEY KNOW YOU COULD CHANGE YOUR MIND. YOU COULD FIND SOMETHING BETWEEN NOW AND THAT TIME AND DECIDE NOT TO GET INTO A CONTRACT WITH THEM BECAUSE NOTHING'S YOU'RE NOT SIGNING ANYTHING, YOU'RE JUST MAKING A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT FIRM. COUNCIL YOU WANT TO ADD. YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY CONTRACTS IN FRONT OF US TO CONSIDER. SO IT'S JUST IT'S KIND OF LIKE IF YOU APPOINT A SUPERINTENDENT AT A SPECIAL MEETING, YOU CAN'T APPROVE HIS CONTRACT OR HER CONTRACT UNTIL THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING. SO NO. OH, IT WAS QUICKEST ONE THAT CAME TO MIND.

SO ANYWAY, YEAH, JUST JUST APPOINTING TONIGHT. MAN. IT'S HARD I KNOW. I'M I'M TORN, BUT I GUESS I GUESS I WOULD SAY COSTCO IF I WAS COSTCO. MCPHERSON I COULD, I COULD GET BEHIND THAT AND I COULD GET BEHIND THE OTHER. SO I THINK, TODD, YOU GOT TO MAKE UP YOUR MIND. THERE'S FOUR WOMEN UP HERE. WE'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW. OH, AND I'M. I'M SUPPOSED TO BE THE STRONG COSTCO. ALL RIGHT, I'LL MAKE THE DECISION. I'LL GET COSTCO. ALL RIGHT. OKAY, FINE. DONE. OKAY.

SINCE YOU MADE THE. OH, YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT THE COSTCO GROUP TO CONDUCT A SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH, AND I'LL SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. FRAZIER, A SECOND BY MRS. BLADES. ALL IN FAVOR? I MOTION CARRIES FIVE ZERO. THAT WAS EASIER THAN I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE. I THOUGHT WE'D ALL WANT A TOTALLY SEPARATE, TOTALLY SEPARATE ONES. YEAH. GOOD. HEY! SOMEONE FAST. YES! OKAY. WE ARE AT 18.2 ESTABLISHED BOARD POLICY. 0420. I'M GOING TO TURN IT. OH, I GUESS WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ESTABLISH BOARD POLICY. 0420.4 CHARTER SCHOOL AUTHORIZATION. BOARD POLICY 0420.41 CHARTER SCHOOL OVERSIGHT. EXHIBIT 0420. 41E CHARTER SCHOOL OVERSIGHT BOARD POLICY 0420.43. CHARTER SCHOOL REVOCATION BOARD POLICY 0420.42. CHARTER SCHOOL RENEWAL AND BOARD POLICY 7160. CHARTER SCHOOL FACILITIES. FIRST READING. CAN I HAVE A SECOND, PLEASE? SECOND.

SORRY. YOU WERE. YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT YOUR DECISION. OH, GOSH. OKAY. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SLEEP TONIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MRS. BLADES, A SECOND BY MR. FRAZIER, AND WE'LL TURN THE TIME OVER TO DOCTOR YOUNG. SURE. GOOD EVENING. THIS EVENING, WE ARE INTRODUCING FIVE NEW BOARD POLICIES AND A CORRESPONDING EXHIBIT THAT PERTAIN TO CHARTER SCHOOL AUTHORIZATION, OVERSIGHT, REVOCATION, RENEWAL, AND FACILITIES. THESE PROPOSED POLICIES WERE ADAPTED FROM GAMUT AND ARE INTENDED TO OUTLINE THE EDUCATION CODE, PROCESSES AND

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SO THE ONE THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS THE MC OR MC. SORRY, SORRY ABOUT THAT. THE ONES THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO ARE THE ONES THAT ARE SUBMITTED DIRECTLY TO THE ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION, AND WHEREBY THE PETITIONERS ARE SEEKING COUNTY WIDE STATUS. IN FACT, WE JUST RECEIVED NOTIFICATION A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO THAT THERE'S A NEW ONE CALLED NAVIGATOR SCHOOLS THAT IS GOING TO BE SUBMITTING A PETITION TO THE ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION. NORMALLY, THE WAY THAT THAT PROCESS WORKS IS THAT THE PETITIONER SENDS A NOTIFICATION TO THE DISTRICTS IN WHICH THEY'RE INTERESTED IN OPERATING, AND THEN AFTER A 30 DAY PERIOD ELAPSES, THEY SUBMIT THE PETITION TO THE ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION. AS WE ARE ALL AWARE, HISTORICALLY, IN THE LAST 4 OR 5 YEARS, THERE'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF THOSE PETITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION. AND WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE MAGNOLIA FACILITIES USE AGREEMENT. AND THAT AROSE FROM A PETITION THAT WAS, OF COURSE, APPROVED BY THE ORANGE COUNTY BOARD. YOU ARE CORRECT THAT THAT PARTICULAR SCENARIO IS NOT INCLUDED IN THESE BOARD POLICIES, BECAUSE THESE ARE SPECIFIC TO THOSE THAT ARE AUTHORIZED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD, NOT BY THE COUNTY BOARD TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN. I THINK THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT WOULD BE TO PUT IT INTO THE ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS AND IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS THAT ARE ADOPTED BY THE DISTRICT STAFF, AND THOSE ARE THOSE GUIDE THE REVIEW OF PETITIONS BY THE DISTRICT STAFF TO PERHAPS, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN THE NOTIFICATION IS RECEIVED, IT'S A PUBLIC DOCUMENT, OBVIOUSLY, WHEN IT'S SUBMITTED TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO THE BOARD AT THAT TIME, WHEN THE PETITION IS SUBMITTED TO THE ORANGE COUNTY BOARD, WE GET A COPY OF IT. AT THAT TIME. WE ALSO GET NOTIFICATION FROM THE COUNTY BOARD AT THAT TIME ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. AND THAT ALSO IS PUBLIC INFORMATION THAT CAN BE SHARED SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THE BOARD, AS IT IS WITH THE DISTRICT STAFF THAT ARE LOOKING AT THAT PETITION. OKAY. WELL, THE REASON WHY I'M BRINGING THIS UP IS THIS EXACT SCENARIO HAPPENED WITH MAGNOLIA, WITH THE BOARD WAS NEVER NOTIFIED. THE COUNTY NOTIFIED THE DISTRICT, BUT AND THE DISTRICT RECEIVED IT. BUT THEN WE WERE NOT NOTIFIED. WE WERE NOT NOTIFIED THAT THERE WAS A HEARING. WE NEVER CAME TOGETHER AS A BOARD TO DISCUSS THE HEARING, WHETHER WE WERE GOING TO FIGHT IT OR NOT, TO FIGHT IT. AND I JUST WANT TO I JUST DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN AGAIN. AND I THINK. SO, I JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO DEAL WITH THAT. OKAY. YOU KNOW, PERHAPS UNDER BECAUSE IT WON'T FIT UNDER OVERSIGHT. MAYBE. IS THERE IN IN PLACING SOMETHING IN WRITING SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO DO IT A CERTAIN WAY? DOES THAT RESTRICT US FROM HANDLING CERTAIN SITUATIONS DIFFERENTLY? THAT WOULD NEED TO BE HANDLED DIFFERENTLY. THAT'S MY CONCERN ABOUT PUTTING THAT IN WRITING, SAYING THE BOARD HAS TO BE NOTIFIED AND THE BOARD HAS TO MAKE A DECISION X, Y, Z. THAT SEEMS. AND TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF HIM IS ANY OTHER DISTRICTS, DO THEY HAVE THAT TYPE OF LANGUAGE IN ANY OF THEIR POLICIES, OR WOULD WE BE LIKE ONE OF THE ONLY ONES THAT'S PUTTING THAT LANGUAGE IN SO THAT THAT LANGUAGE IS NOT IN ANY POLICIES THAT OUR OFFICE HAS HELPED TO PREPARE? BUT TO YOUR POINT, YOU KNOW, ARE WE TIED TO THAT LANGUAGE? ONCE IT'S PUT INTO A BOARD POLICY, YOU CAN ALWAYS USE LANGUAGE LIKE, YOU KNOW, SHOULD OR MAY OR WILL AS OPPOSED TO SHELL. RIGHT. AND SO WE CAN HAVE SHELL PROVIDE NOTICE TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY WIDE SUBMISSION, WE CAN SAY SHALL PROVIDE NOTICE

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YEAH. YEAH OKAY. NOT PUBLIC BUT ON BOARD POLICY 0420.4. UNDER TIMELINES FOR THE BOARD. ACTION 0.410420.4. THE VERY FIRST ONE OKAY. AND IT'S UNDER TIMELINES FOR THE BOARD. I'M JUST GOING TO FIND THAT PAGE FIVE PAGE. YEAH YEAH MINE SAYS PAGE 37. SO IT SAYS AT THE VERY BEGINNING, WITHIN 60 DAYS OF RECEIVING A CHARTER POSITION, THE BOARD SHALL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CHARTER PROVISION. AND COULD WE ADD WORDS LIKE WITHIN 60 DAYS, BUT NOT FEWER THAN LIKE 20 OR 30 DAYS? AND THE ONLY REASON I'M BRINGING THIS UP IS WE HAVE RECEIVED CHARTER PETITIONS ON A FRIDAY, AND WE'VE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING ON A TUESDAY, SO IT'S NOT REALLY ENOUGH TIME FOR THE PUBLIC OR THE BOARD TO REVIEW IT AND TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK INTELLIGENTLY ABOUT IT AT A HEARING. OKAY, OKAY. SO THE LAW REQUIRES THE BOARD TO TAKE OR EXCUSE ME, HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING WITHIN 60 DAYS OF RECEIPT OF THE PETITION. RECEIPT OF THE PETITION IS NOW SPECIFICALLY DEFINED TO MEAN WHEN THE PETITION AND THE CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION ARE SUBMITTED. SO WE HAVE ALL THE WAY OUT TO 60 DAYS AND THEN 90 DAYS TO TAKE ACTION. GENERALLY, WE DON'T LIKE TO HAVE THE MEETING HELD AT THE 60TH DAY BECAUSE OF THE STAFF FINDINGS THAT HAVE TO BE POSTED AT LEAST 15 DAYS PRIOR TO THE MEETING AT WHICH THE ACTION IS HELD. TO ADDRESS YOUR ISSUE OR CONCERN, I THINK THAT WE COULD PUT LANGUAGE IN HERE THAT THE EXCUSE ME PUBLIC HEARING SHOULD BE HELD WITHIN, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED BOARD MEETING OR WITHIN, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO ADDRESS THAT CONCERN. SO NOT HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE TO I KNOW YOU'RE GOING NOT YOU KNOW NOT FIVE DAYS, NOT TEN DAYS, BUT YOU KNOW SOME KIND OF REASONABLE WINDOW OF TIME. THREE DAYS IS JUST TOO SHORT. WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE RUNWAY FROM THAT. AND ADDING THAT IN THERE TO ENSURE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. I MEAN, I WOULD NEVER RECOMMEND THREE DAYS BECAUSE PART OF THE REASON FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING IS SO THAT EVERYBODY THAT IS GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THIS CHARTER SCHOOL THAT IS POTENTIALLY COMING IN HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT EXCUSE ME, YOU KNOW, THE VERY PURPOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING IS TO HEAR FROM DISTRICT TEACHERS, DISTRICT PARENTS AND OTHERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED, EITHER NEGATIVELY OR POSITIVELY BY THE CHARTER. AND I THINK THE ONE THAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO IS THE CHARTER REVISION. IS THERE A DIFFERENT RULES FOR REVISION, SO ON FOR DISTRICT CHARTER, WHEN THEY PULLED IN A REVISION, WOULD THERE BE DIFFERENT RULES? THE REVISION PROCESS IS IN. STANDARDS ARE THE SAME AS FOR MATERIAL. REVISIONS ARE THE SAME AS THEY ARE FOR NEW. OKAY, YEAH, I AGREE WITH THE YOU KNOW, NOT WANTING TO WAIT OUT THE 60 DAYS

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YEAH. BUT GIVING, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE TIME. YEAH. BUT BUT I THINK TOO, IF WE WERE LIKE EXPECTING IT AND THEN LIKE SOMETHING HAPPENED, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BOX OURSELVES IN FOR THE DAYS THOUGH, BECAUSE LIKE, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE REALLY DO HAVE TO DO A SEVEN DAY THING? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE, WHAT HAPPENS IF IT JUST SOMETHING POPS UP, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING. JUST POP UP. YES. RIGHT. I MEAN, THAT'S THE POINT. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO. WE SHOULD. YEAH, BUT WE WEREN'T BEFORE, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T. I KNOW IN GENERAL. YEAH. DON'T BOX US IN. NO, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE, YOU KNOW, PROACTIVE. YES. BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES MAYBE THINK ON IT AND THEN WE CAN AS WE CIRCLE BACK THERE'LL BE LOTS OF THINKING. ADD IT TO THE LIST, THINK ON IT. OKAY. AND THEN.

DOWN TWO PARAGRAPHS, IT SAYS AT LEAST 15 DAYS BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND THAT'S ABOUT THE.

THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. IS THAT BUSINESS DAYS OR CALENDAR DAYS.

CALENDAR DAYS OKAY. AND THAT IS A NEW REQUIREMENT THAT CAME ABOUT. EXCUSE ME, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. AND SO IN THE PAST, WHAT WE USED TO DO IS HAVE THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS POSTED ON THE FRIDAY BEFORE THE BOARD MEETING, BUT NOW YOU ARE SPECIFICALLY REQUIRED TO HAVE ALL OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND FINDINGS POSTED AND POSTED ON THE DISTRICT WEBSITE. AND POSTED ALSO MEANS PROVIDE A COPY TO THE CHARTER. PETITIONER AT THAT TIME. POST AT 15. YEAH.

POSTED 15 DAYS. YEAH. OKAY. ONE MORE FOR THIS ONE. UNDER NUMBER TWO IT SAYS APPROVAL OF THE PETITION. IT TALKS ABOUT THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING. THERE WAS A LOT OF DEBATE ABOUT THIS WITH PRIOR CHARTERS. SIMILAR. IS THERE ANY WAY TO MAKE IT MORE CLEAR THAT IT NEEDS TO, YOU KNOW, COVER THE FINANCIAL, THE OPERATIONAL? I MEAN, THAT'S IS THERE ANYTHING MORE WE CAN ADD TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT? SO IT'S NOT SO MUDDY. SO THE PREFERENCE OF OUR OFFICE IS TO HAVE A CHARTER PETITION THAT CLEARLY DELINEATES EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE THERE IN TERMS OF OPERATION, IN TERMS OF EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM, IN TERMS OF GOVERNANCE, ETC, ETC.

NOW, SOMETIMES THERE ARE INSTANCES IN WHICH, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NEGOTIATING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE CHARTER PETITIONERS, AND THERE'S JUST NOT THAT ABILITY TO GET ALL OF THAT INCORPORATED INTO THE CHARTER DOCUMENT IN TIME FOR THE BOARD TO TAKE ACTION. IN THOSE INSTANCES, WE HAVE SPECIFIC MEMORANDUMS OF UNDERSTANDING. SOMETIMES IT'S FOR THE SPECIAL ED PORTION OF IT, BECAUSE IF A CHARTER IS GOING TO BE CONSIDERED TO BE A SCHOOL OF THE DISTRICT FOR SPECIAL PURPOSES, YOU WANT ALL OF THAT DELINEATED, DELINEATED AS TO WHO'S GOING TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES, HOW THAT FUNDING STRUCTURE IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE TONIGHT, FOR EXAMPLE.

I MEAN, MAGNOLIA IS NOT OUR CHARTER, BUT WE HAVE IT'S ESSENTIALLY A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING. WE'RE JUST CALLING IT A FACILITIES USE AGREEMENT. BUT SO IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET IT INCORPORATED INTO THE CHARTER, WHICH IS REALLY THE CONTRACT BETWEEN THE DISTRICT AND THE CHARTER SCHOOL, THEN WE'LL PUT IT INTO A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING. WHICH, OF COURSE, THE BOARD APPROVES AS WELL. RIGHT. WELL, THEY'RE TELLING YOU TO THINK ABOUT A LOT OF STUFF. SO SHE HAS AN HOURLY RATE. WELL, I'D LIKE TO GET IT RIGHT SINCE WE ALREADY KNOW MORE CHARTERS ARE COMING. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TAKE THE TIME. I KNOW. OKAY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN. I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK IF LIKE, WE COULD SAY THE BOARD MAY APPROVE ONE OR MORE MEMORANDUM TO CLARIFY THE FINANCIAL AND OPERATIONAL AGREEMENTS TO CLEARLY DELINEATE BETWEEN THE DISTRICT AND THE CHARTER SCHOOL. CAN WE ADD A LITTLE BIT THERE JUST TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC, IS THAT BENEFICIAL? SUKI. ANYTIME YOU HAVE CLEAR DELINEATION OF DUTIES, ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD THING. BUT TO HAVE IT SPELLED OUT IN THIS, NO. SO WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING

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RIGHT. BUT DEFINITIONALLY, ISN'T THAT WHAT IT IS? SO A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING CAN SOMETIMES BE JUST FOR A SPECIFIC TOPIC, AND SOMETIMES IT CAN BE FOR OPERATIONAL ISSUES. RIGHT. AND SO I THINK TO ADDRESS BOARD PRESIDENT'S CONCERN ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR POLICY, I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, PUT IN A WORD OR TWO, NOT NOT THREE, NOT FOUR, JUST A WORD OR TWO TO ADDRESS HER CONCERNS. OKAY. THANK YOU, SUKI, FOR ADDRESSING MY CONCERNS. OKAY. NOW WE'RE GOING ON TO BOARD POLICY 0420.4. AND I THINK ON WHAT MY SECOND PAGE IS, THE FIRST TWO PARAGRAPHS ARE, THEY'RE EXACTLY THE SAME. OH OKAY. SO WE JUST NEED TO CATCH ONE. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT. OKAY OKAY. AND THEN. ON PAGE THREE UNDER MATERIAL REVISIONS. IT SAYS THAT THE DOCUMENT SAYS THE SUPERINTENDENT DETERMINES WHETHER A PROPOSED CHANGE IN A CHARTER SCHOOL OPERATION CONSISTS OF A MATERIAL REVISION. IS THERE A CRITERIA THAT IS USED TO EVALUATE THAT. SO THIS IS A REALLY MURKY AREA OF THE LAW. AND I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I WAS GOING TO SAY IT LOOKS VERY MURKY TO ME. YEAH. SO IT'S A REALLY MURKY AREA OF THE LAW.

AND THE RECENT CHANGES TO THE CHARTER SCHOOLS ACT REALLY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO ADDRESS THE MURKINESS, UNFORTUNATELY. RIGHT. WELL, SO WHEN THEY CHANGED THIS PORTION OF THE CHARTER SCHOOLS ACT TO ADDRESS WHAT IS A MATERIAL REVISION, THEY SAID IT'S THINGS SUCH AS ADDING GRADE LEVELS OR CHANGING LOCATIONS, WHICH YOU KNOW, IS A NO BRAINER. OF COURSE, THOSE ARE SUCH MASSIVE THINGS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE MATERIAL REVISION. BUT THEY DIDN'T THEY DIDN'T ADDRESS OTHER THINGS, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU CHANGE, YOU KNOW, THE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM THAT IS BEING PROVIDED, IF YOU'RE A MONTESSORI SCHOOL AND YOU DECIDE THAT THIS IS NOT A GOOD FIT AND THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED AND YOU WANT TO BECOME A DUAL IMMERSION, I THINK EVERYBODY THAT'S SITTING ON THIS DAIS WOULD AGREE THAT THAT'S A MATERIAL REVISION. BUT THERE ARE CHARTERS THAT HAVE ARGUED, NO, IT'S NOT. OR FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU GO, EXCUSE ME, RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A MORATORIUM ON INDEPENDENT STUDY, BUT LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY WERE WANTING TO GO FROM INDEPENDENT STUDY TO A CLASSROOM BASED OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND. THAT'S A BIG ENOUGH CHANGE THAT IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED A MATERIAL REVISION. NOW, SOMETIMES THE NON-MATERIAL REVISIONS CAN BE SOMETHING THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, LIKE A MASCOT OR A NAME CHANGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I MEAN, IF THE CHARTER CHANGES ITS NAME, IS THAT CONSIDERED A MATERIAL REVISION? SOME WOULD ARGUE, YES. THAT'S A VERY MATERIAL REVISION BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THE SCHOOL IS BEING IDENTIFIED. OTHERS WOULD SAY IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A MATERIAL REVISION. AND SO WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO IN OUR OFFICE IS TO STRIKE THAT BALANCE AND TO ALLOW THE SUPERINTENDENT OR THE SUPERINTENDENT DESIGNEE TO GET THE FIRST LOOK AT THAT REQUEST, AND THEN MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHETHER THAT INDIVIDUAL OR DESIGNEE CONSIDERS IT TO BE MATERIAL ENOUGH TO BRING TO THE BOARD. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE USING QUITE OFTEN, BECAUSE THEN RATHER THAN RUNNING TO THE BOARD EVERY SINGLE TIME, YOU KNOW, IT ALLOWS THE SCHOOL TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A COOPERATIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE DISTRICT AND TO CONTINUE. I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, WE ALL LOVE, YOU KNOW, SEEING YOUR FACES, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU PROBABLY LOVE TO SEE OURS AS QUITE AS MUCH, YOU KNOW. YOU'RE JUST YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MATERIAL REVISION. SO LIKE, WITH THE EVEN IN OUR OWN DISTRICT CHARTER, THEY'VE BEEN CHANGING IT SIGNIFICANTLY. LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT WENT FROM A SIX PERIOD DAY TO A SEVEN PERIOD DAY. THERE'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CURRICULUM IS CHANGING. THERE'S LIKE A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED. AND WE HAVEN'T DONE A MATERIAL REVISION THAT'S JUST BEING DONE. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE? LIKE IF WE EMAILED YOU A LIST OF ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING CHANGED WITHOUT BOARD APPROVAL AND WITHOUT A MATERIAL REVISIONS? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT? BECAUSE LIKE, AS OF RIGHT NOW, ALL WE'RE HEARING FROM THE SCHOOL IS ALL THE CHANGES THAT ARE COMING TO IT. AND ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT IS CHANGING. SO IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S TEACHING STUFF, IT'S STUDENT STUFF. IT'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED. BUT WE HAVEN'T IT HASN'T COME BEFORE THE BOARD AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING OFF OF OUR OWN, YOU KNOW, CHARTER SCHOOL LIKE WHAT WE VOTED ON. IT'S ALL BEING CHANGED WITHOUT BOARD APPROVAL. WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THEM DO? IS DO A MATERIAL REVISIONS WITH ALL OF THEIR CHANGES? YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. I MEAN, ESPECIALLY I MEAN, YOU SAID THE MAGIC WORD CURRICULUM.

SO IF THEY'RE CHANGING THEIR CURRICULUM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD DEFINITELY BE COMING BACK TO THE BOARD. YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS MAY OR MAY NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE, BUT IT'S ALSO A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MAY NOT HAVE

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YOU'RE GIVING THE AUTHORITY TO THE DISTRICT, I MEAN, TO THE SUPERINTENDENT OR DESIGNEE TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT NON-MATERIAL REVISIONS. SO, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD SAY IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGE. THEY CAN SAY IT'S A TWEAK. YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT ALLOWS THE SCHOOL TO RUN A LITTLE BIT BETTER. IT'S MATERIAL THINGS, BIG THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE NEXT SENTENCE WHERE IT SAYS MATERIAL REVISIONS MAY ONLY BE MADE WITH BOARD APPROVAL. SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO ADDRESS BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THE BOARD ADOPTS THIS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, LIKE I SAID, LOCATION GRADE LEVELS, THOSE ARE TWO THAT ARE GIVEN UNDER THE LAW CURRICULUM I THINK WOULD BE ANOTHER ONE GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE. OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES TO THAT BECAUSE OF OSC'S BEING A DEPENDENT CHARTER, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE MUCH IN TERMS OF EMPLOYEES BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL DISTRICT EMPLOYEES ANYWAY. BUT WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION AS TO WHAT THE BOARD THINKS ARE MATERIAL REVISIONS AND THEN INCORPORATE THAT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THESE ITEMS ARE MATERIAL REVISIONS, OKAY.

FOR ONE. WELL, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION TO HAVE. OKAY. ON THE NEXT BOARD. OH, NEXT BOARD POLICY TO SECOND. FOR ONE. FOR WHEN? FOR TWO. AND THERE'S JUST IT'S MORE OF LIKE A TYPO ON THE SECOND PAGE OF UNDER EIGHT. WHICH POLICY. 00420.41. OH OKAY.

ON THAT ONE. DID WE DO THAT ONE TWICE? THERE'S A IT'S THE EXHIBIT. THE EXHIBIT. EXHIBIT.

YES. ON NUMBER EIGHT, AFTER THE ED CODE 47605.6. THERE NEEDS TO BE A SPACE IF A CHARTER. YES.

OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND COPYRIGHT EDITOR. ARE YOU SAYING I MISSED MY CALLING? MAYBE I'M PRETTY GOOD AT THAT PART. OKAY. 0420.42. NO, NOT FOUR THREE. NO. FOUR TWO RENEWALS ON. PAGE ONE.

LET ME READ THIS AGAIN. OKAY. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RENEWALS AND IT JUST SAYS THAT IT JUST SAYS SIGNIFICANTLY EARLY BEFORE THE EXPIRATION OF THE TERM OF THE CHARTER TO ALLOW THE BOARD DELIBERATION EFFICIENTLY. YEAH. SUFFICIENTLY EARLY. CAN WE. YEAH. THAT'S EXACTLY. SO CAN WE BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT THE TIME FRAME? I MEAN, IT'S SPECIFICALLY EARLY AT LEAST SIX MONTHS. IS IT A YEAR OR IS THAT A TERM THAT'S TYPICALLY USED. SO THIS IS OUR ATTEMPT TO

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AND THEN THEY WILL SUBMIT IT. AND THEN WE HAVE THIS BATTLE AND THIS AND THAT. SO WE'VE TRIED TO, YOU KNOW, ADOPT THIS SO THAT WE USE THIS LANGUAGE THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR FINAL YEAR IS WHAT YOU'RE IS WHEN WE WANT TO SEE IT, THERE'S NOT MUCH THAT WE CAN DO TO STOP THEM FROM SUBMITTING IT. AND SOMETIMES WE'VE SEEN, LIKE EVEN IN THIS LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOME OF THE SCHOOLS WERE CONSIDERED TO BE HIGH PERFORMING, SO THEY WERE ELIGIBLE FOR SEVEN YEAR RENEWALS. AND SO THERE WERE SUBMITTING THEM A LITTLE BIT EARLY BECAUSE THEY WANTED THE SEVEN YEAR RENEWAL AND NOT THE FIVE YEAR BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SEE LIKE IF THEIR PERFORMANCE DECREASED. SO I CAN TRY. SO THIS IS A LANGUAGE THAT WE NORMALLY USE. BUT TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN, I THINK WE CAN TRY TO PUT MORE SPECIFICITY THAT WE WANT TO SEE IT IN THE FINAL YEAR. SO CHARTER TERMS ALWAYS END ON JUNE 30TH, JUNE 30TH, WHATEVER YEAR WE WANT TO TRY TO SEE IT IN LIKE OCTOBER, NOVEMBER. SO THAT AND THEY ALSO WANT TO SUBMIT IT AT THAT TIME.

BECAUSE IF YOU DENY IT, IT CAN BE APPEALED TO THE COUNTY. AND IF THE COUNTY DENIES IT, IT CAN BE APPEALED TO THE STATE. SO THEY ALSO WANT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT LONG, LONG, LONG. I MEAN, I JUST WAS TALKING TO SOMEBODY ABOUT AN APPEAL THAT'S GOING TO THE STATE. IT WAS JUST FILED TODAY, AND THE STATE JUST SENT OUT A NOTICE THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HEAR UNTIL SEPTEMBER, YOU KNOW, SO CHARTER PETITIONERS, THAT'S WHY THEY WANT TO SUBMIT IT LIKE SOMETIMES IN THE FOURTH YEAR. BUT I THINK MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO IS PUT LANGUAGE IN HERE THAT THE BOARD WILL ONLY CONSIDER. I DON'T KNOW HOW EFFECTIVELY IT WILL BE IF IT'S CHALLENGED. BUT YOU KNOW, WELL, WE WANT IT TO BE IF THIS IS THE SORRY IF THIS IS THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU FEEL THAT YOU CAN DEFEND STRONGLY, THEN I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE THAT WE KEEP IT THAT WAY. YEAH. I MEAN, I CAN TRY TO WORK ON, YOU KNOW, THE CONCERNS THAT YOU'RE RAISING AND SEE IF I CAN COME UP WITH LANGUAGE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE PRECISE. I THINK IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. BUT IF, IF IT'S IF YOU PREFER IT. YEAH. WELL IF THERE'S NO WAY I CAN. YEAH. YOU KNOW, I JUST WAS CURIOUS. YEAH.

BECAUSE I WAS JUST LIKE, IT'S VERY VAGUE. YEAH. IT'S A WEIRD WORD WHEN YOU READ IT EVEN FEELS WEIRD. YEAH. BUT SUFFICIENTLY EARLY. WELL, SUFFICIENTLY EARLY. I MEAN, I LIKE I LIKE THE ROOM TO WIGGLE, BUT BUT I THINK WHAT WE CAN LET'S. OKAY. SO DO YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT. YEAH, I WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT. BUT LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALSO THE RATIONALE FOR HAVING THAT IN THERE IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY TRY TO SUBMIT IT IN YEAR THREE OR YEAR FOUR, THEN WE'RE KIND OF STUCK, RIGHT? YEAH. SO I SEE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO NOT GO TOO EARLY. YEAH. BUT NOT, YOU KNOW, TOO LATE. YEAH. YEAH. SO IT'S GETTING THAT JUST RIGHT. JUST RIGHT. MAYBE CHAIR BABY BEAR. PERFECT. OKAY. AND THEN ONE OTHER QUESTION ON THIS ONE. AND IT'S THE SAME THING WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT. WHEN IT'S UNDER TIMELINES FOR THE BOARD ACTION. WITHIN THE 60 DAYS OF RECEIVING THE RENEWAL, THE BOARD SHALL HOLD A PUBLIC SAME ARGUMENT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YEAH, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE SUFFICIENT TIME TO REVIEW THE PUBLIC HAS SUFFICIENT TIME, ETC. DID YOU SEE THAT ON THAT ONE? DID IT THE SAME LANGUAGE? YEAH. ON THE OTHER IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME LANGUAGE. OKAY. OKAY. SO I'M INTO CHARTER SCHOOL FACILITIES, WHICH IS BASICALLY 7160. IT'S THIS IS PRETTY MUCH ADDRESSING THE PROP 39 REQUEST. RIGHT? YES. IS THERE ANY WAY TO STRENGTHEN THIS? ABOUT WHAT PRACTICES THAT THE BOARD SHALL TAKE TO VERIFY, LIKE THE 80 IN DISTRICT OR THINGS LIKE THAT, LIKE JUST SO WE'RE UTILIZING BEST PRACTICES AND PRACTICES THAT HAVE BEEN UPHELD IN COURT. SO THERE'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE RIGHT THAT GOES WITH THIS THAT THE STAFF WILL BE ADOPTING AND REVIEWING THAT GOES INTO, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT DETAIL. YEAH.

PERFECT. THAT ANSWERS THAT. AND THERE'S NO TIME FRAME FOR THIS AS WELL EITHER IN TERMS OF LIKE WHEN THE BOARD WOULD BE NOTIFIED ABOUT PROP 39 REQUEST. SO WHAT WE CAN DO FOR EXAMPLE. SO PROP

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YEAH. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT COVERED ALL OF THEM? MY ONLY REQUEST AFTER DOING THIS WHOLE CHARTER REVISION TALK IS THAT I DO THINK WE NEED TO HAVE IT COME BEFORE THE BOARD FOR OSC'S. JUST BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THIS. AND FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD, WE HAVE A RETURN TO A TRADITIONAL BELL SCHEDULE, WHICH WAS NOT IN THE ORIGINAL REVISION. LOSS OF MODEL SPECIFIC AUTONOMY, THE REDUCTION OF SUPPORT STAFF. WE HAVE THIS. THEIR SYSTEM INFLAMMATION IS STALLED. THE RETURN OF PE WITHOUT FAMILY COMMUNICATION, RELOCATION OF THE DUAL LANGUAGE ACADEMY. WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE GONE ON OVER THERE THAT IS NOT WITHIN ITS AGAINST WHAT THE ACTUAL CHARTER PETITION IS. AND SO I THINK BEFORE, LIKE I WOULD EVEN SAY, IS THE DLA PROGRAM AT TOUGHER, EVEN VALID BECAUSE THE BOARD NEVER VOTED TO MOVE IT, AND WE'RE MOVING A WHOLE PROGRAM AND CURRICULUM TO ANOTHER SCHOOL. SO I MEAN, IS THIS WHERE WE ARE? I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A CHARTER REVISION. YEAH. AND ACTUALLY DO THE PROCESS APPROPRIATELY AND NOT JUST START MOVING THINGS. AND I MEAN, NOW WE'RE 60 DAYS OUT. SO LIKE IS TOUGH FOR EVEN. IS THAT EVEN LIKE A LEGAL THING IF WE'RE VIOLATING OUR CHARTER PETITION.

YEAH. I MEAN SO WHEN A CHARTER CAN CONTINUE TO VIOLATE ITS PETITION, SO TO SPEAK, SO LONG AS THE AUTHORIZING AGENCY, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T ENFORCE IT, AND THAT IS WHERE THE PROBLEM ARISES, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE LONGER YOU ALLOW A CHARTER TO BE IN VIOLATION OF ITS CHARTER PETITION, THE HARDER IT IS TO GET THEM TO STOP SEIZING OR SEIZE THOSE PRACTICES THAT ARE VIOLATING THAT. HOWEVER, THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE THREE DAYS OVER, YOUR NINE DAYS OVER WHATEVER. AND SO THERE'S PART OF IT IS MATERIAL REVISION THAT CAN BE THERE TO CLEAN THAT ALL UP. AND ONE OF THE OTHER POLICIES THAT'S HERE. AND SOMETIMES WE'VE HAD TO USE IT. AND I'M WORKING ON A REVOCATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO OVER THE SUMMER, WHERE A CHARTER IS SO FAR OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH ITS CHARTER PETITION THAT YOU REVOKE THE CHARTER PETITION. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING I'M NOT. YEAH. YEAH. EXACTLY. YEAH.

OKAY. ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT WE HAD ALL OF THESE THINGS HAPPENING THAT THE BOARD PUT IN PLACE, AND THEN NOW IT'S BEING CHANGED AND NO REVISION HAS HAPPENED. NOTHING HAS COME BEFORE THE BOARD. SO I DO THINK IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION THAT SHOULD BE HAPPENING.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. THE SOONER THE BETTER. I THINK WE ALL AGREE ON THAT. I AGREE TO I, DOCTOR SERINO YOU'LL MAKE THAT HAPPEN FOR US. YES. THANK YOU. YES. YES. TRUSTEE BLADES THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WHOSE? FIRST READING, FIRST READING, FIRST READING. SO IT'S READY TO VOTE. ALL FIRST READING, FIRST READING. BUT WE DO. WE ALWAYS DO A VOTE. YEAH. ALL IN FAVOR I OKAY. MOTION CARRIES FIVE ZERO. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THOSE REVISIONS. OKAY. I. OKAY.

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